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  1. shane_th_ee

    Timberline vs Z71 Tahoe 6.2

    I’ll just say that if I had to replace my Expedition today, I’d go with the Yukon XL AT4 6.2L. Because you can’t get the Timberline with the long wheelbase.
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    AGM battery

    Note that the Expedition will enter a low power mode if it sits for an extended period such that the battery is drained below some preset level...
  3. shane_th_ee

    Need new rubber on my 2020

    We have them on our minivan and love them. Super quiet and great in the wet. The tread is aggressive enough for gravel/dirt roads, but they’re not an A/T tire. Can’t speak to the snow, because that’s when we use the Expedition exclusively.
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    A Friendly Reminder on Drive Modes for 4WD

    I have not needed to (yet). Now, I can’t say I was bashing through deep dunes as the beaches I’ve been on have been pretty firm.
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    A Friendly Reminder on Drive Modes for 4WD

    I have also tested sand mode. It works well!
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    A Friendly Reminder on Drive Modes for 4WD

    Coming to my Expedition from an XJ Cherokee (with mechanical 2H/4H/4L and no traction control) for “normal” snow and normal grades, I think you want to use snow mode. The reason you don’t want to use 4H (or mud/rut) is that having the front and rear locked together means that torque steer on...
  7. shane_th_ee

    Am I pushing payload capacity too much?

    You're within all the specs, I wouldn't worry about it.
  8. shane_th_ee

    Help! CAT Scale Weights Not Adding Up

    The unladen front axle weighed 3300lbs. It weighed less with the trailer attached. Where’d that weight go? The rear axle.
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    Help! CAT Scale Weights Not Adding Up

    That’d be 1240 *minus* the 400lbs that came off the steering axle (3300 in 3rd, 2900 in 2nd), which gives 840lbs for the tongue weight. Why does weight come off the front axle? Because the rear axle is acting like a fulcrum, like a seesaw with the engine as one kid and the trailer tongue as...
  10. shane_th_ee

    When to trade in?

    Trade it in?? No, no, no. You drive it until the wheels fall off and sell it to the wrecking yard. Or you drive it until you need something different (like more towing capacity).
  11. shane_th_ee

    What brand/size tires was your expedition delivered with?

    Mine came with Michelin Primacy in 285x65r18. After much arguing Ford replaced them with Goodyear Wrangler Kevlar ATs. I plan to go with the BFG KO2s when these need replacing, but I want a more aggressive AT tire. Wasn’t the Michelin LTX pretty much designed for what you need/want in a tire?
  12. shane_th_ee

    Expedition too big for daily?

    What wakeboarder said. Do you need/want to tow anything? Do you need/want something capable of light off-road duty? If yes to either of those questions, get an Expedition. When I have to commute in traffic or park in tight parking garages, my Expedition is way too big compared to my Bolt...
  13. shane_th_ee

    Tow Upgrades and Guidance - 2021 Expedition XLT

    What’d you miss? Rear springs, the HD tow package includes different rear springs. (And now that Ford has the non-eLSD version of the 3.73 rear differential available, it might be do-able to change out the rear differential/axle.)
  14. shane_th_ee

    Weigh Scales

    Depends on the state. WA and OR both encourage the general public to use the CAT scales at the weigh stations, but only allow their use when the weigh station is closed. Some states will not allow the general public to use their weigh stations at all.)
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    Weigh Scales

    In which case you stop with just the front axle on the scale and weight it. Then drive all the way on and weigh it again. (The calculation of the rear axle weight is left as an exercise for the reader).
  16. shane_th_ee

    Anyone tow 8,000 lbs. with their 2021 Expedition FX4 with max towing?

    oh, and I have over 20,000 miles on the combo.
  17. shane_th_ee

    Anyone tow 8,000 lbs. with their 2021 Expedition FX4 with max towing?

    It's an Outdoors RV which is a notoriously tongue heavy brand. So while it might have a 900lb tongue weight, it's only an 18' box and about 6000lbs. That said, it took a few adjustments to the hitch to get it dialed in correctly. But I'm pretty happy with it as a tow vehicle and really happy...
  18. shane_th_ee

    Anyone tow 8,000 lbs. with their 2021 Expedition FX4 with max towing?

    I, too, have a trailer with a tongue weight of ~900lbs. If you use the 3-pass method, you'll discover that the WDH transfers weight off the rear axle and onto both the front axle and the trailer axle(s). Which will give you a little more effective cargo carrying capacity.
  19. shane_th_ee

    2019 Max (No HD Tow Package) Capacity

    It’s communicating that if you want to tow the hypothetical 9300lbs, you need a WDH and a tongue weight of no more than 930lbs. Think of it as yet more fine print explaining yet one more thing that has to be just right to pull the 9300lb trailer they advertised.
  20. shane_th_ee

    2019 Max (No HD Tow Package) Capacity

    Those are how much weight you can put on the hitch receiver itself, depending on type of hitch used, the higher numbers of you’re using a weight distribution hitch (common for travel trailers, very rarely used for boat trailers). It’s important because some trailers are more tongue heavy than...
  21. shane_th_ee

    MSRP Increase at the dealer on 2022?

    When I ordered mine back in 2018, I noticed there were differences is MSRP between dealers and got curious… I discovered the build and price would give me a different MSRP for different zip codes.
  22. shane_th_ee

    Weight Distribution Change and Bad ccd struts

    What do you mean by having lost half of the weight distribution? You mean you took another trip to the cat scale and the weight transferred is only 50% of what it had been? Or does the truck sag more than it used to?
  23. shane_th_ee

    Gas siphon

    I bought a 12V Gas Tapper siphon pump. Haven't had to use it yet, still waiting for said emergency...
  24. shane_th_ee

    Confused on Axle Ratios and Towing Capacity

    Always go with the sticker. That's required to be accurate by law. A vin decoder is some random dude on the internet. The 1389lb payload is accurate. Out of curiousity, have you weighed your rig at a CAT scale using the three pass method? (Durango and trailer hitched together normally...
  25. shane_th_ee

    Show us your 4th Gen in the snow

    Normal people get off road when the snow starts?

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