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Habbibie

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Ahead is anInteresting story to kill 5 minutes of your valuable time on (long read)


me and a few others spun out on the same intersection yesterday evening, cars turning left and right at that intersection both were spinning out or sliding on what seems like a visibly dry road.

I was the second out of 7 to spin or slide, As I was turning left on the light, the Tacoma infront of me that was also turning spun out 180 degrees three quarters of the way into the turn then rolled back 40-50 feet before backing into another car in the oncoming traffic , before I can finish saying "huh what an..." I freaking started spinning too except i ended doing a full 360 within my lanes before the truck stalled.

Two more cars turning left behind me at the time also spun out, the dually f350 spun 180 and rolled back a couple feet before his tow hitch ball hit my tow hitch ball (no damage), the Chevy Colorado behind that f350 spun very slow long but he rolled back half a mile into a curb... Literally he rolled back so far almost out of view before breaking his axles on a high curb... Like wtf?!?

Two cars turning right from the other side of the street didn't get the message that there might be a reason why everyone is spinning out and they proceeded to attempt to navigate through all the trucks but first car (Acura TL) never made a full turn... Just half way into it and it started sliding forward into oncoming traffic and crashed pretty hard as he floored it into the turn when his light turned green ((idiots 101 right there)), the Corolla behind the TL also slid straight into the back of that TL but at a much slower speed that he didn't manage to get any damage. Seems RWD cars spin and FWD/AWD slide

After that all other cars stopped entering the intersection and some went to help the TL driver and the minivan driver he T-boned. I was gonna go check on the guy in the F350 but soon as I stepped on pavement I slipped and ended up doing a rather pretty painful split with one foot on the ground and one on the running boards.

All were ok except the teenager driving daddy's TL he bashed his head so hard on the windshield that his face was all just glass and blood with deep gouaches (scar face 4sure)

Anyways this story is turning out longer than I anticipated... The seventh lucky car was the police charger RT as it came flying down trying to secure the area but instead it slid into the traffic light and turned a fine machine into what seems to be a blue mangled tin can. Police officer, TL driver and two minivan passangers needed medical attention it seemed.

My expedition and the F350 were the only ones that stalled on the spin and that helped a lot, all others were still running, after seeing all what was happening and how hard the cop hit, I & the f350 guy decided to bail out of there before something else happens.

We took off but the expy had no traction as if I'm driving on ice, anyways I drove a 100 yards to the next traffic light and the f350 driver next to me told me to do a burn out to clean the tires and it sure did, 5 second burnout brought back 100% traction.

2 hours later my neighbor asked me as I was having a smoke outside as to what happened cause he just passed that intersection and firefighters had it completely covered in foam.

I assume only the fords turned off cause some Fords have an inertia switch in the pump circuit to detect a certain G load from any direction that will cut off the power to the pump, Acura/Honda could really benefit from this I would think.

As to what was on the pavement... I don't know still, it wasn't oil that's forsure, it had the same characteristics as water... Thin, clear, no smell but slippery as hell to the point that everyone was extremely struggling to stand up on it, let alone walk or drive.

Sorry I didn't take pics, I wasn't in that state of mind at that moment.. Haven't watched the news yesterday either to see if it was mentioned.
 

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Glad you are okay. I wonder if someone dropped a large amount of soap solution on the road. The military has that stuff that they can spread on the ground and you lose all traction. Make sure you take your truck to the car wash and spray down the undercarriage in case whatever was on the road was corrosive.
 

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Glad to hear you made it through with no injuries! That could have been way worse than it was! Wonder if it was bleach... they have scent free ones. Maybe a spill or some idiot wanting to reave havoc.
 
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Past couple days I been researching trying to find out what was the substance on the street is, nothing is raising any flags yet but the mystery of it is keeping me on my toes
 

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Wow. Good (scary) story. Glad you are okay. The fuel cut-off system worked well as advertised. How did the breaking system work with the lack of traction? Freak thing and I agree with Andy, sounds like some type of soap or surfactant that will limit traction.

I was born in the SW suburbs of Chicago and still hold the area as my "home". But sure glad I moved out West. Too much weirdness going on in the Chicago area these days...

Glad you made this one and hope your Expy was the reason why.
 
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Brake pedal bottomed out but I felt the abs kicking in through the entire spin.

I asked A police what happened he said they found a tanker 12 miles away leaking what seems the same substance but they can't confirm it as the leak was very minor
 

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I thought diesel spills were gnarly
 

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Sound like someone had a Polyethylene glycol spill. odorless, colorless and slick as catsh*t!

A barrel falling over in the back of a tuck could have coated the road behind the driver as it flowed out of the bed, providing a nice skating rink for the drivers behind him...and he never would have known.

The FD would have realized what it was and coated it with the foam. Maybe a call to the FD might tell you for sure?

I also think that you are right about the inertia switch...I've read the warning in my 99 Expy of how to reset it.

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PEG on a road?????

*******.

That's just terrifying.
 

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Where is the inertia switch in the 17? I looked in the compartment where the liftgate motor is but I did see it there (that where it was on the 05).


Don't know Andy.....I'm not positive there is one but Habb's description sure made it sound like that's what cut his engine out because with a fuel injected engine, there's no other reason....wait a sec...I have a '16 Expy electrical book at home I bought on the net for 20 bucks as a "just in case"....I can look tonight if I remember.

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Nope, it DOES have one......I found this in the Owners manual on page 222:


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In the event of a moderate to severe
collision, this vehicle includes a fuel pump
shutoff feature that stops the flow of fuel
to the engine. Not every impact will cause
a shutoff.
Should your vehicle shut off after a
collision, you may restart your vehicle. For
vehicles equipped with a key system:
1. Switch off the ignition.
2. Switch on the ignition.
3. Repeat Steps 1 and 2 to re-enable the
fuel pump.
For vehicles equipped with a push button
start system:
1. Press the START/STOP button to
switch off the ignition.
2. Press the brake pedal and press the
START/STOP button to switch on the
ignition.
3. Remove your foot from the brake pedal
and press the START/STOP button
to switch off the ignition.
4. You can either attempt to start the
engine by pressing the brake pedal and
the START/STOP button, or switch
on the ignition only by pressing the
START/STOP button without
pressing the brake pedal. Both ways
re-enable the fuel system.
*********************



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all vehicles equipped with an electric fuel pump will have a fuel pump cutoff switch (aka inertia switch) in the US per NHTSA

if there are exceptions I am not aware of them
 

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Nope, it DOES have one......I found this in the Owners manual on page 222:


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In the event of a moderate to severe
collision, this vehicle includes a fuel pump
shutoff feature that stops the flow of fuel
to the engine. Not every impact will cause
a shutoff.
Should your vehicle shut off after a
collision, you may restart your vehicle. For
vehicles equipped with a key system:
1. Switch off the ignition.
2. Switch on the ignition.
3. Repeat Steps 1 and 2 to re-enable the
fuel pump.
For vehicles equipped with a push button
start system:
1. Press the START/STOP button to
switch off the ignition.
2. Press the brake pedal and press the
START/STOP button to switch on the
ignition.
3. Remove your foot from the brake pedal
and press the START/STOP button
to switch off the ignition.
4. You can either attempt to start the
engine by pressing the brake pedal and
the START/STOP button, or switch
on the ignition only by pressing the
START/STOP button without
pressing the brake pedal. Both ways
re-enable the fuel system.
*********************



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Thanks Jeff. It sounds like an electronically reset switch instead of physically flipping the switch.
 

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all vehicles equipped with an electric fuel pump will have a fuel pump cutoff switch (aka inertia switch) in the US per NHTSA

if there are exceptions I am not aware of them

Well evidently, all those other cars/trucks involved in that crash didn't have them then! I would think they all had fuel pumps.

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no, they have them

they just might not have got tripped but I can assure you they have them or you would be hearing stories of fuel system fires all over the news.
 

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Wow what a strange series of accidents, glad to hear you and the expy are ok. That reminds me I should go find the cut off on my expy tonight

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