DIY - Oil change for a 2017 Expedition

[Habbibie]

Ouch. Tad harsh there, my friend!


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Yea that was harsh, sorry I was pretty pissed off yesterday regarding an unrelated subject and took it out on my fellow colleagues instead

 

[NorthGeorgia]

The Mobil One was on sale at Costco and I got the filter for cheap at Farm and Fleet. Maybe It was under $30....still a good deal.

Ooooops, The sale price of the 6 quarts of Mobil One at Costco was $26 and change and the filter (An OEM Ford one) was less than $4 at Farm and Fleet (sale price). So I guess my oil change was a tad over $30 (plus tax).

But that is still A LOT cheaper than what it would have cost me for a Fully Synthetic oil change anywhere else.

And now that I know how/what to do it won't take me as long next time. Now that I know how to 'contort' my 70+ year old body to get at stuff.

 

[MidwestBoater]

I actually started doing this years ago, but with oil changes in my first boat, it had a 4 Cylinder I/O with a regular automotive style spin on filter. I put a trash bag under the oil filter before I removed it so I could keep the shiny white gelcoated bilge nice and clean.

That is a great idea. I changed my oil a few weeks ago and oil from the filter dripped everywhere. I cleaned as best I could with brake cleaner but the next morning I had a small pool of oil about 1 inch wide on the garage floor. I verified that the oil filter and oil pan plug were not leaking.

I think the zip lock bag idea will help the next time I tackle this. Thanks!

 

[LRNAD90]

And now that I know how/what to do it won't take me as long next time. Now that I know how to 'contort' my 70+ year old body to get at stuff.

I hope I am still capable of doing my own oil changes when I reach your age, though I'm not sure I will still want to, if I make it there. LOL!

 

[chuck s]

I do mine on my S2000 at "his age" but the Expedition is too much of a challenge and the dealer cost is reasonable.

-- Chuck

 

[Dakota4ce]

I get a full synthetic change at our tire shop for $55 and that’s a NO BRAINER for me. And they have fresh cookies in the waiting room .

Good on ya for still doing it! I actually like it—like you—but convenience usually wins out. Sounds like this truck is a bearcat!


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[bobmbx]

An interesting thread. Especially with the concern of oil dripping off after an oil change; seems a bit odd when you read other threads about spraying the entire underbody with oil as a benefit.

 

[Trainmaster]

I had a dealer change my oil for ten years. Here's the damage sustained on various cars:

Oil plug threads stripped, replaced with plastic plug.
Oil plugs stripped, plug held in with two threads.
Oil overfilled one and one-half quart.
Oil filter installed with two gaskets (old one not removed) causing leak.
Leaking oil plug, not tightened. Finger tight.
Low oil level (three times).

That's why I change my own oil. Since I began maintaining my own cars with OEM parts, I've gotten no less than 265,000 miles from my Fords -- Excursion, Expeditions, Explorers, Focus, and Taurus. When I'm under the car I get to see the general condition of things. I find other problems before they cause more harm.

For me, it pays to get off my rear end and do the job nobody else is going to do the way I do.

 

[Boostedbus]

Not sure if everyone is aware of this or not ,but if you twist those white plastic fasteners on rubber blanket that’s up front under drivers side, then it will flap down so you can access the oil filter from there. No need to remove metal pan for access, just the rubber trap door for oil to drain out through.

 

[1955moose]

I think our friend Habbibie needs one of those cookies! Hey Henry they might have cold milk too!

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[lbv150]

Not sure if everyone is aware of this or not ,but if you twist those white plastic fasteners on rubber blanket that’s up front under drivers side, then it will flap down so you can access the oil filter from there. No need to remove metal pan for access, just the rubber trap door for oil to drain out through.View attachment 26046

And if the front of the truck is elevated higher than the rear, everything drains nice with no mess, including the filter. I installed one of these on the oil pan https://www.fumotooildrainvalve.com/

 

[NASCAR Mike]

I installed one of these on the oil pan https://www.fumotooildrainvalve.com/

The only thing I don't like about Fumoto valves is that you don't get all of the oil out when you drain it. There is still some left and that is where the crud collects.

Next time you change your oil, drain it all via the Fumoto. Now remove the Fumoto and see how much more oil comes out. You may be surprised.

 

[lbv150]

The only thing I don't like about Fumoto valves is that you don't get all of the oil out when you drain it. There is still some left and that is where the crud collects.

Next time you change your oil, drain it all via the Fumoto. Now remove the Fumoto and see how much more oil comes out. You may be surprised.

You do raise a good point and I will check it. If it does then I'll pull it maybe every 15,000 when I clean the catch can filter. I change engine oil every 3K. The valve is still better than sucking it out the dip stick tube as others have suggested. LOL

 

[chuck s]

Worrying about an extra once or two makes no sense to me. Fumoto valve or pump drain (like my inboard boat engines) may leave a bit more than a removed drain plug but unless you use paper towels and Q-tips you can never get all the oil out of the engine during an oil and filter change.

I don't know what remains in the 3.5 EcoBoost but there is a 0.8 quart difference in my other car, a 2.2 Honda 4 (DOHC). between new-build and oil and filter change. Most of a quart is always in there. Takes 5.9 quarts to fill it, but only 5.1 comes out of the drain plug. (These are Honda specs, not my computations.)

Someone got the technical spec as to how much difference there is here? How much oil does it take to fill a new built engine?

-- Chuck

 

[Trainmaster]

I use NoSpill oil plugs. Made in USA and Canada, fit flush, drains to the last drop and can't get ripped out by road debris. Milled from brass bar stock; no crappy castings or nylon pivots. Drains hot oil into a jug through a hose. The police fleets here and the Navy use them. A big step above Fumoto and the Chinese knock-offs.

https://www.nospillsystems.com/products-parts.cfm

 

[lbv150]

I use NoSpill oil plugs. Made in USA and Canada, fit flush, drains to the last drop and can't get ripped out by road debris. Milled from brass bar stock; no crappy castings or nylon pivots. Drains hot oil into a jug through a hose. The police fleets here and the Navy use them. A big step above Fumoto and the Chinese knock-offs.

https://www.nospillsystems.com/products-parts.cfm

I understand the concern of the Fumoto and other valves. I only put one on the '16 Expy because the drain plug is on the side of the cast aluminum oil pan and was making a mess draining the oil. The valve is a right angle and drains straight down. Plus the '16 has a cover that needs to be removed to get at the pan.

 

[mquick5]

Getting ready to do my first oil change on my 2017. I understand the oil filter is designed to be changed when level. I'm wondering if it's safe to use car ramps, rated @2k lbs each on the front and then Jack the rear end up on jack stands?

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[mquick5]

What a pita! Drain plug and oil filter were most likely installed with impacts. Oil filter was really difficult, but idt it will be that bad next time. Also my little oil filter drain flap thingy was missing. No big deal, one less step.

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[TeeDub]

Agree, too much collateral damage by hiring the "pros" as they are often inexperienced kids learning the trade.
I made those same mistakes at that age, but have been changing my own oil for 45 years now and take note of things nearby each time I do.

 

[07navi]

I hate those fumoto things. I can pull my plug in seconds and don't have to wait all day for it to drain. They remind me of some china gadget designed to make your life easier that ends up in a garage sale.