Need thoughts, 2011 EL with 60K miles looking to buy

Is the expy in a dealer like carmax? (Pay highest price w/ no haggle) Just wondering cause the price is awfully high for an XLT 2011, $20,500 is 2013-2014 EL limited/king ranch territory w/ similar mileage

I am buying a 17 XLT with 35K miles 202A Navagation etc for 36500 minus my 07 8000 brings it to 28500 diff. Oxford white with dune leather

No not the carmax price. There is one local at carmax at like $5k over high end value. I do not get it.

It is at a Ford dealer in a higher area near Phila on the NJ side.

You are certainly going to pay a large premium when buying from a Ford dealer. Some folks feel it's worth the added expense. Most franchise dealers won't sell junk and will auction any junk they get. They should also give you a warranty of some sort.

I try to buy privately or from a fleet rental company. That saves me $3,000 to $5,000 over a dealer's price on an eight year old car. That's a lot of hard earned money for me to not throw away. I finance nothing and pay cash. If I want it, I can buy a Ford dealers' warranty for about $1,300 on top of that and get any of the protection a dealer will give me. And if I want the thing detailed, that's another $300 in New York. Searching privately is a pain. It takes a lot of time, but the potential to save $5K is well worth the trouble to me.

But I'm a mechanical guy. I don't mind the risk and I can ferret out maybe 70% of the hidden problems. It depends on what you want and what you are willing to pay. I hate paying more than I have to.

If you feel you must buy from a Ford dealer, you will be paying top prices. It's the easy way to shop, but you will pay dearly for that convenience. It's just necessary for them to meet their high overhead and still put food on their tables.

I wanted to find a private party expedition when I was shopping too, but once I had drive An ecoboost expy with 202a, I knew nothing less would do. Mine is used for family hauling and pulling my RV and I was getting rid of my pickup which had the 5.4 and was adequate for my towing needs. The ecoboost exceeds all expectations, tows like a freight train at altitude, and gets 20+ mpg on road trips without the rv. The newer nicer low miles expeditions will only be found at Ford dealers for the most part. People are not trading in expensive late model vehicles with the same frequency as they used to since new expedition and truck prices in general are astronomical.

The Ford dealers have exclusive auction access to low mile late model fleet vehicles. They get first pick of the good stuff, with the others with higher miles or hidden problems go to the non Ford exclusive auctions for the rest of the dealers to pick over.

I'm not saying buying from a smaller dealer is bad per se but the vehicles they have access to at auction typically are farther from perfect than those you'd find at a big Ford only dealership.

That price looks horrible

Imho, get a higher mileage and/or newer and/or navigatorL for A LOT LESS.

And west coast or southern would be better

Door sounds like an accident

Problem is as long as new SUVs stay in high demand, the price of used ones will also be high, with very little negotiating. You need to find private party low mileage vehicles. I agree with stay away from Midwest/ east coasters. Theirs going to come a time when peoples interest will wane, then prices will drop drastically. It's supply and demand. The past few years the demand is high. Ford's been the king due to inside room and features. It's like trying to find any Toyota, no matter what model at a deal. Doesn't happen, unless it's got 300k or more, who wants that.

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I cant speak to price, but here are some things I have had issues with on my 09 : Look for paint bubbling up on the aluminum hood and lift gate (corrosion, not rust). Find out if the spark plugs have been changed yet (a BIG job). Check the serpentine belt and coolant condition. Listen for an exhaust leak tick near the rear of the manifold, the bolts like to break there. Should be due for a tranny fluid change s well. I love my EXPY, If these things are Ok you shouldnt have an issue for quite a while.

I bought mine in the chicago area and Ive put over 120,000 more miles on it and they have been pretty much trouble free. I pull a 30 foot travel trailer as well....

RustyOval said:

I cant speak to price, but here are some things I have had issues with on my 09 : Look for paint bubbling up on the aluminum hood and lift gate (corrosion, not rust). Find out if the spark plugs have been changed yet (a BIG job). Check the serpentine belt and coolant condition. Listen for an exhaust leak tick near the rear of the manifold, the bolts like to break there. Should be due for a tranny fluid change s well. I love my EXPY, If these things are Ok you shouldnt have an issue for quite a while.

I bought mine in the chicago area and Ive put over 120,000 more miles on it and they have been pretty much trouble free. I pull a 30 foot travel trailer as well....

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Plugs on newer models are childs play

And shouldve been on an 09, for that matter

The doors being slightly off is commonplace. I've seen it on many vehicles including my Expedition (which has never been in so much as a fender bender) and my wife's car (which we bought new).

ELs fetch a premium in the northeast, but I still wouldn't pay $21K for it. I paid $27K for my 2011 EL Limited in PA w/ an extended warranty (had over $10K in repairs done under warranty) in May 2015 and honestly, if I had bought it 6 months later and/or settled on an XLT I could have had it for far less.