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    Ford quietly redesigned the thermostat in 2022...replace it

    Trip back up hill heavier traffic 190-201. While sitting at lights it creeps up 201. Once moving flat road it starts to drop 198-195. Which would make sense with air flow in 57 degree outside temps. No fan. Fan kicks on around 210-212. At home 201 temp letting it idle in park took about 4...
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    Ford quietly redesigned the thermostat in 2022...replace it

    More observations First highway run fully warmed up 50 degree temps the transmission temp stabilized at 183 at 75mph flat highway no climb. Prior to the thermostat it would stabilize in the 199-212 range in the same trip and speeds. Pulling off the highway to an immediate stop Light ie worse...
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    Family hauler new to me 2019

    Check out my post about my recent thermostat adventure in my 2019 78,000 miles. Might save you some headaches.
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    Ford quietly redesigned the thermostat in 2022...replace it

    Dealers are 3rd party businesses Warranty work is all based on fixed cost repairs meaning the dealer cannot sell a $600 hr shop job while the tech is doing a $180 hr warranty job. Some dealers literally book outside contractors for certain days of the week that only do warranty work leaving...
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    Ford quietly redesigned the thermostat in 2022...replace it

    The tech claimed that temps during his drive were 97-103 with the old thermostat which had the truck running hotter than the new 190 temp thermostat. His temperature data must have been under the hood oil cap temperature lol . It was very obvious his write up was just filler to try and make the...
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    Ford quietly redesigned the thermostat in 2022...replace it

    Here’s what I suspect regarding dealers. I worked at one many yrs ago. We didn’t have this modern “profit” sharing concept where service managers got monthly bonuses based on % over cost of service fees. Meaning the pay method encourages a healthy dose of filtering out warranty jobs for over...
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    Ford quietly redesigned the thermostat in 2022...replace it

    My rough take is a correctly working thermostat 190 degree opening temp. That the transmission heat exchanger temp should loosely follow that especially under low load conditions where transmission isn’t generating much heat. The engine temp doesn’t display till you reach 227-228. So a defective...
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    Ford quietly redesigned the thermostat in 2022...replace it

    Ok so first drive back home observation. Outside temps are 20 degrees warmer. Transmission temperature was 10 degrees cooler than the trip into the dealer this morning in cooler temperatures. No fan running after the short climb up to my house like previously. Also the start/stop feature which...
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    Ford quietly redesigned the thermostat in 2022...replace it

    Ok so for all you Exp guys. My 2019 78,000 miles started seeing random temperature spikes didn’t matter what the load was. I noticed the fan kicking on in strange low temp weather after driving up short hills in town, but no temp spike over 228 which is when you will see actual temp displayed on...
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    Ford quietly redesigned the thermostat in 2022...replace it

    How do you guys get ford to replace this junk thermostat? I have been seeing the classic random temp spikes and my dealer won’t replace it under warranty? Do I call ford HQ?
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    Coolant Leak

    I was told by my local shop that if you can’t get to a dealer 30 ish miles that Ford will let shops do the work and warranty it. Literally just talked to my local guy great shop does some difficult jobs perfectly etc. In my case two Ford dealers in a 12 mile radius. So no dice. But could be...
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    A year that DOESN'T have massive transmission issues?

    So only time I saw 244 trans temp on my 2019 was hauling my 29ft 8700lb boat over Grants Pass Oregon in 100 degree weather we saw 245 just as we crested the pass keeping rpms around 1900 with the heater blowing full tilt. Higher rpms seem to just spike temps more. 2000rpm or lower seems to be...
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    Long RV Trip Report - Also Engine Heating

    You guys getting lower than 9mpg must be hauling butt? My 8900lb 13ft high 9ft wide boat at 55mph is 9-9.5 mpg. Definitely not interested in going faster. Lighter weight rv trailer running less than 9mpg is some heavy pedal pushing. I still have the 2019 original thermostat. Definitely...
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    Had to buy it!

    Yeah the Explorer is shockingly tight on space. For not “Building any more cars” Ford sure made the Explorer as car wagon like as they possibly could without loosing the “SUV” label . I did the same came from a 07 Sequoia to the Expedition. Its been a fantastic rig. 8 pass must. Hauling Scouts...
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    It’s official, Hankooks are history!

    My cooks only made it 12,000 miles they were terrible on wet highway and horrific in the snow. On my second set of 3peak BFG Trail Terrains that did 60,000 easy. Great in the snow, great on the highway no complaints.
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    Battery Issues?

    Hidden gps trackers used by bad credit used car dealers can have high parasitic draw also
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    Battery Issues?

    And in most cases we don’t know when the battery was made. It could be sitting on a shelf for 6 months. Or have a cracked plate from being dropped before going into the truck. All typical things that cause battery failure
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    Battery Issues?

    Basic lead acid battery behavior when left dead in hot or cold temperatures. Unless you know when that battery was manufactured and its full life story you only have basic science of how these batteries work ie discharge rate when not used. Whats your build date on your truck? When did you buy...
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    2024 Expedition - s-l-o-w steering

    My ex makes a u turn where my Subaru Outback did but I need 4 inches more curb to curb thats not bad.
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    Rear locking differential only on Tremor?

    I used the term elocker because thats what most people call these when they lack the mechanical understanding that friction plates are not the same as a mechanical locking differential. The G80 is old as dirt and is proven with its well known advantages and disadvantages. I mentioned it...
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    Rear locking differential only on Tremor?

    I believe the only rear differential sold in light duty trucks that is a auto locking diff mechanism is GMs g80 rear differential which does not have elocker technology. Fords elocker diff is a limited slip differential that can be electrically engaged to full locking potential via a switch...
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    Battery Issues?

    12v batteries that are healthy and charge typically have a resting voltage in the 12.8v neighborhood. Thats resting voltage not charging just turned off and voltage checked voltage
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    Rear locking differential only on Tremor?

    Limited slip diffs have been around for eons they don’t shift power when turning. They limit outside wheel spin when turning on slick surfaces.
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    Rear locking differential only on Tremor?

    The older e-lock with button easily activated by mistake had lots of burnt up clutch packs. Kinda like driving with the ebrake on. Ford moved it and got rid of the accidental activation via stuff being set on it on the center console. All of us with that button have set something on it and...
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    Battery Issues?

    Simple before you owned it it sat snd likely was dead. Its the number one reason most batteries are junk on recently bought cars.

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