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    How much are you guys paying for brand new '19s?

    There is Explorer XLT w/Sport Appearance Package, that might be what you're thinking of. Not a stealth edition though.
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    What Octane are you running in your Platinums?

    And yet the Expedition smoked that Denali. At least the Nav was pretty close.
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    3rd row seat removal

    Be careful removing the 3rd row as they may provide structural rigidity in event of a crash (and even everyday driving). To be sure, check the trunk of an Expedition SSV and copy what's there.
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    Towing and offroading impressions

    In the owners manual it should detail this, but when towing or in very hot conditions, premium fuel should be used to better performance, I believe its stated that 93 octane is ideal.
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    OEM Rear Seat Entertainment Dealer Install

    Salespeople are sales, not knowledge.
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    2018 Expedtion (Ford email)

    So long as you're white, you're good. If you're not, move only to a big city.
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    2018 Expedtion (Ford email)

    Only a queen. Hasn't been a king for nearly 60 years now.
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    front bench possible? need 9 seats

    The ones with column shifters are sold as Fleet vehicles only (at least initially). Known as XL, they are below even the XLT trim level. Usually used for emergency responders (police, fire etc). There may be dimensions in the fleet order guide. You might be able to find one on...
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    Definition of Expedition

    You can enable it in the 5th generation Explorers too, they're just labelled as 'mud' and 'sand' mode, respectively.
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    Whats difference between 2018 Max and EL?

    Blow me down, that's silly! The chief engineer of the Expy said that pretty much verbatim. I guess someone didn't catch those particular misprints. Thanks for the new info.
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    Definition of Expedition

    The intelligent AWD is an upgraded 4WD. While not explicitly labelled as such, 4 Hi and 4 Lo can be enabled.
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    Whats difference between 2018 Max and EL?

    There is no such thing as a 4th gen EL. The EL was the extended wheelbase for the 1st-3rd generations and was renamed to MAX for the 4th gen.
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    Definition of Expedition

    I thought the unibody determined the name, but apparently it is size. Although I've just gone by size as well, it's easier to distinguish that way. The Explorer is staying unibody btw. It is, however, going back to RWD biased w/AWD as an option, as opposed to FWD biased.
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    How much are you guys paying for brand new '19s?

    Oh that I understood. What puzzled me was how california is communist, seeing as it most assuredly is not. Interesting. First time I've heard that about the LEO/mil discounts. It is however, how you appeal to consumers in a capitalist society. More privilege generally does equal more money...
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    How much are you guys paying for brand new '19s?

    Lol just because someone is college educated does not automatically make them wealthier, especially if they're under 40. Its just a different incentive. I don't understand how this is so controversial. Its almost exactly the same as showing that you're a first responder and getting a discount...
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    How much are you guys paying for brand new '19s?

    Because graduating college is an achievement, and a fairly popular one. Such a discount reaches a fairly wide target audience. Your other 2 aren't a fair comparison.
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    front bench possible? need 9 seats

    I completely disagree about the safety aspect, but I did want to raise a point about deletion being cheaper. While it may seem obvious, it could also be more expensive for the manufacturer. For example, it might seem that removing a headrest would save costs right? No headrest, money can be...
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    Definition of Expedition

    The unibody ones are actually called CUVs or Crossover Utility Vehicles (for the most part). They used to be lumped in with full size SUVs, but since theres been such a surge in demand and market segment fragmentation of them, the name is now properly used. The Explorer, for example, is...
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    Automatic Engine Shutdown

    To approach from another angle, how long is it before the electrical systems time out, if you don't start the engine?
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    Definition of Expedition

    SUV seems like it's such a broad term nowadays. Although I guess CUV is also a thing, but I don't see it used all that often.
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    Automatic Engine Shutdown

    Its possible to turn this feature off manually btw. It's not mandatory. Edit: not easy to do apparently. Read your manuals people.
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    Automatic Engine Shutdown

    This feature can be turned off upon starting the engine. In addition to that, police vehicles are generally configured differently anyway and may have a dedicated kill switch or not even have it all.
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    What is this?

    Have you checked your owners manual?
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