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No Scott, I unfortunately don't have the funds for a 2015 on up vehicle. At this later point in my life, I'm on a limited budget. I'm not knocking anyone that has or can afford the newer vehicles. What I was saying that for the past year or so, all the posts I seem to read are about items that can be corrected by reading the owners manual in most cases. When I started here 4 1/2 years back, and up till 2018 or so, most posts were mechanical, or electrical issues. Nowadays it's about some grill that someone installed, or someone ******** about their remote control not firing their SUV up from inside their house, because it's too cold or hot outside. Don't get me wrong, but that's just lazy people. I try to help as many members as I can. Some days I just piss people off! At my age, I don't care like I used to. People in life, either like you or hate you, hope I'm not the latter with you. But it won't be the first or the last with me.

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Glad for anyone that is willing to make a positive contribution, so thanks for your posts. I also can understand how the level of interest in a topic depends on if the issue directly affects your own vehicle that you drive every day.
 
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All the cops in my area are driving f150's, explorers, and expeditions, they idle for hours sometimes and don't shut off. For example at the local parade in July an expedition sat in an intersection idling the whole time with the cop standing out front directing traffic. I think forscan will end being the best bet to get it changed but is sounds like not all areas are accessible right now.

Speaking of cops idling for long periods of time in fords, you guys hear about the carbon monoxide issue with police and their ford explorers? Just google carbon monoxide explorers...

Point is I wouldn’t be sitting with my kids in any stationary running vehicle for significant amounts of time, like watching a movie.

And I don’t know which is funnier in this thread- the guy that can’t accept that it is not 1950 anymore or the guy that hangs out on message boards of products he will never buy. Wow guys
 

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Speaking of cops idling for long periods of time in fords, you guys hear about the carbon monoxide issue with police and their ford explorers? Just google carbon monoxide explorers...

Point is I wouldn’t be sitting with my kids in any stationary running vehicle for significant amounts of time, like watching a movie.

And I don’t know which is funnier in this thread- the guy that can’t accept that it is not 1950 anymore or the guy that hangs out on message boards of products he will never buy. Wow guys

Funny, but no big deal as some make it. I'm that 1950 guy you referred to but it's not that I wish it were 1950. It's not like I live during that time. But there are certain attributes of certain time frames that are better than today and some worse. I just don't believe in saying everything is better because it's new and high-tech and its current and it's today so the world must be a better place. I can pick and choose and point out and gripe about all different aspects of all different times.
The other guy, Moose, not having a current generation Explorer but hanging out here makes more sense if you think about how these forums work.
Only if you're going to start a new thread do some look to see and put it in the appropriate category. Once a person is a member they typically either click on new posts or they get an email notification on their phone telling them there is a reply in a thread they have posted in.
It's not like we search to find a thread about an electronic feature on a fourth generation.
It pops up, we read it, and if we have any ideas on the answer, or if we have a comment on our opinion whether we'd like to feature or not, or even if we think the feature should exist on cars... We reply.
This is where some get quite uptight.
They may wish for people to stay exactly on topic but I don't because we learn more about more variety of things.
By paying attention to threads on things you don't even own, you are better able to help friends who have these vehicles that ask you when they have issues and you know what to look for a lot of the common fixes when you finally end up with those vehicles 8 or 10 years down the road when you're willing to pay what they're selling for.
That's how a lot of us do it. I get calls and texts weekly from friends when they have an issue or question about their car since I have been repairing their vehicles since around 1990.
A lot of end up on a forum after searching for a problem they are having with their vehicle.
If they don't find the answer they often join and post to get more specific info or help. Many of them are gone after their issue is solved.
Others like myself and Moose use this to kill down time and just for relaxation and enjoyment.
That's why I mentioned a lot of people on here must have never had the hobby of CB radios.
It was similar to how some of us use the forums. We talk about anything and everything, Bounce from topic to topic, then go back and talk about the same things over and over again.

There was just another thread in the past week or so where they were talking about the carbon monoxide and fumes getting into the vehicles. There was some talk about rear or side exit too.
From what I recall there's not a really super great fix for it but I didn't focus on those threads to thoroughly.
 

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Cb radios we're a 1970/80's way of communicating with others that you'd never have met otherwise. The forums are just a modern day version. Back in the 50's, really the 70's for me, we'd actually hook up. Girls never looked like their voices sounded. Usually a bunch of ugmos with a great voice. I've always been a techie guy even way back then. Had to had the newest trickist stereo/tv, whatever. When I sold off some of my inventory a few years back, it got snatched up quick. We'd have the same disagreements on the radio, that goes on here. Somebody would get off track on a conversation, and would look for that individual. My friends had state of the art tracking equipment to locate that car or house. Ah those 50's!

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I have always felt the similarity between the forums and CB radio also.
I had many CBs growing up then I got into the single sideband ones then ones with the uppers and lowers installed. Then a couple of export radios. Then got my ham license.
Lots of fun.
Used to love to shoot skip from my 102 in Whip on the back of my conversion van. I would talk to you guys in Texas and Canada all the time.
 

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We did that skip radio late in the evening too. I once talked to a guy from Kansas from here in San Francisco. Did it with a simple Panasonic 4 watt car cb unit. I was up high on the San Bruno mountains, that helped. About 800 feet up.

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You better run over to the power foaming a 3.5 thread. They have been talking about cold air intakes for 2 days!
The NERVE of some people. How dare they talk amongst each other about what ever comes up.
You guys must have never been CBers.
Hahahahah that thread did go way off track but 3rd gen owners are a different breed than 4th gen’ers
 

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It seems that every generation of these vehicles has a different demeanor. And that's normal. It's like housing neighborhoods, the people that can afford the higher mortgages are a different type of personality. An individual that drives a Bentley or Rolls Royce, would probably not be tailgating with the guys in Ford SUVs and pickups at the ball games.

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Discovered a new feature last night. I had my two younger kids in the vehicle with the engine running and we were watching a movie on the Ford RES during my oldest son's soccer practice. Maybe 45 minutes into the movie, the vehicle shutdown by itself. Sure enough, the manual describes this functionality (see below), though it would be nice to find if it can be disabled via FORScan. It can be overridden from the driver's seat, but I was in the 3rd row watching the movie, and didn't see the message on the instrument cluster. The Ford RES is a pain when the ignition is cycled since the RES shuts down and the bluetooth connection has to be re-synced. Curious if others have run into this "feature."

Automatic Engine Shutdown

For vehicles with a keyless ignition, this automatically shuts down your vehicle if it has been idling for an extended period. The ignition also turns off to save battery power. Before your vehicle shuts down, a message appears in the information display showing a timer counting down. If you do not intervene within 30 seconds, your vehicle shuts down. Another message appears in the information display to inform you that your vehicle has shut down to save fuel. Start your vehicle as normal.

Automatic Engine Shutdown Override Note: You cannot permanently switch off the automatic shutdown feature. When you switch it off temporarily, it turns on at the next ignition cycle. You can stop the shutdown, or reset the timer, at any point before the 30-second countdown has expired by doing any of the following: • You can reset the timer by interacting with your vehicle, for example pressing the brake or accelerator pedal. • You can temporarily switch off the shutdown feature any time the ignition is on using the information display. See Information Displays (page 109). The feature only remains off for the current ignition cycle. • During the 30-second countdown, the system prompts you to press OK or RESET to temporarily switch the feature off for the current ignition cycle only.

****, screw that

I've idled for heat camping out in 12°F weather in my Navigator before... and that wasn't even winter, just up in the mountains. Still cold enough to have been hella pissed off and probably sick if I'd woken up with the engine off.

People unaware of this BS could take a nap they never wake up from in real cold weather... or possibly bake to death? Idk would you wake up if you fell asleep in a vehicle with the windows up that turned off in 130°F heat and full sun?
 

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****, screw that

I've idled for heat camping out in 12°F weather in my Navigator before... and that wasn't even winter, just up in the mountains. Still cold enough to have been hella pissed off and probably sick if I'd woken up with the engine off.

People unaware of this BS could take a nap they never wake up from in real cold weather... or possibly bake to death? Idk would you wake up if you fell asleep in a vehicle with the windows up that turned off in 130°F heat and full sun?

Its possible to turn this feature off manually btw. It's not mandatory.

Edit: not easy to do apparently. Read your manuals people.
 
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Now you know why I keep back ups to dead batteries, and god knows what else. And I live on the SF coast. You guys/girls in the cold climates need to expand on that. Emergency blankets, food, etc. Well we're in spring for now, so the next prepare is for hot weather.

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Its possible to turn this feature off manually btw. It's not mandatory.

There is not an easy way to disable. The selection on the info cluster to turn it off only changes the behavior to prompt the driver with a 30 second warning to override before the engine shuts down. If the feature is on, it doesn’t give the 30 second warning and just shuts off.
 

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There is not an easy way to disable. The selection on the info cluster to turn it off only changes the behavior to prompt the driver with a 30 second warning to override before the engine shuts down. If the feature is on, it doesn’t give the 30 second warning and just shuts off.

To approach from another angle, how long is it before the electrical systems time out, if you don't start the engine?
 

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Did anyone confirm how to stop the shutdown at idle? www.4dtech dot com does sell a device but not for the 2018 Expedition. Only have one for the f150. Basically trying to find something in the menus to disable the Auto engine idle shut down feature.
 

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