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    11 navigator stalling out

    Have you removed fuse 27 under the hood in the fuse panel and inspected the socket? There is a tsb for the socket melting (fuel pump) and a relocation kit available for a few bucks. It's a 20 minute job on the F150, should be the same on the expy. It will cause a crank no start situation. And in...
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    Zero Miles To Empty.....

    From 1/8th of a tank, mine takes 27 gallons to fill it up, it has one hell of a reserve built into the gas gauge.
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    Surging idle & stall at lights with (seemingly phantom) no oil pressure warning

    Yah, if they VCTs are not getting correct juice to actuate it will clatter and have rough idle and mess with the timing. Either that or you lost a cam phaser and it's just pure coincidence it happened at the same time as the battery. I'd disconnect the battery for an hour. Then reconnect and...
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    Guess no factory trailer brake controller for my 2015

    Was the wiring in the dash to plug it into behind the cubby panel? If so, it can be added. You can enable it using forscan as well if the dealer can't figure it out.
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    Looking to buy a used Expedition - Advice Needed

    Actually the built in brake controller was available as far back as 08 and was standard on the limited models from 08 up. The brake controller in the years you are looking at is low in the center stack above the cubby vs the more convenient location to the right of the steering wheel in the 15+...
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    2008 V-8 vs. 2016 V-6 on the Road

    As a side note, the 5.0 is a turd for towing, it has to scream (and is designed to do so) at 4k+ rpm to pull a load in the mountains. I actually traded in my 2012 5.0 F150 for a 2010 5.4 which was day and night better towing in the same circumstances and ran cooler transmission temps as well. I...
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    2008 V-8 vs. 2016 V-6 on the Road

    The rub is that the ecoboost is such a better towing motor. I tow a travel trailer quite a bit over the summer so towing performance was a big deciding factor, as well as the new vehicle warranty and sync 3. I've towed extensively with the 5.4 in 2 properly equiped pickups (3.73 gears in both...
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    Only one key works to start

    Or the second key is an ebay special. They can be bought cheap and the key head programed like a regular fob instead of through the computer. The key has to be programmed by the dealer or a locksmith unless you have 2 working keys already in which case you can program your own easily once they...
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    2008 V-8 vs. 2016 V-6 on the Road

    Haha, I made that same mistake. I was looking to buy a 5.4 expedition since they were cheaper than a 15+ with ecoboost. Then on a whim I drove a 17 at an auction and realized I couldn't have anything less once those turbos spooled up on the test track. Don't drive one or you will want/need one.
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    2008 V-8 vs. 2016 V-6 on the Road

    My ecoboost is getting 17.4 in mixed driving, but if my wife were the sole driver it would be more like 11-12 (short commute and heavy foot). Both are great motors and I've owned both, but this little twin turbo has the pulling chops that can't be matched by the 5.4. It just can't be believed...
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    2012 5.4 triton (Gator), light misfire (?) vibration at idle

    VCTs on the 08+ Tritons were no longer easily accessible as the valve covers were redesigned when they went away from the 2 piece spark plug. They now require the valve cover to be removed. Not terrible, but not nearly as easy to change. With those miles, I would do spark plugs and coil packs...
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    Headlights, and other questions...

    You might double check your vin against the ford decoder in Etis, in 07 the EL was available with the 3.31 or the 3.73 and both were rated to tow the same load. However they drove and behaved very differently (much better with 3.73). If you have the integrated trailer brake controller (not sure...
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    New owner, new member

    If you (or your passengers) don't mind not having arm rests on the rear Captains, you can convert the bench seat by removing 7 bolts in the floor. The center section lifts right out. Screw the 7 bolts back into the holes in the floor and order the T shaped carpet to cover it all up. My kids...
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    ForScan Tweaks - 2015+

    I created a forscan account today for just this reason, it's a real pain not to see the fan speed when the radio screen is up. Would also like to know how to add the "auto" option in the rear hvac control menu so it will sync with the front. My XLT just has the rear options for turning it on...
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    Sync 3 rear air "auto" mode hack with Forscan?

    I have a 17 XLT with the 202a package that includes the 8" touchscreen with nav and sync3. What I don't have, is the "auto" button on the rear air control screen, which I believe syncs the rear air with the front. I only have an on and off button to enable or disable the rear controls. I'd...
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    Axle ratio and mpg

    Agreed if you are swapping gears, go to 3.73, it will get better or the same mpg in town but pull much better.
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    3rd Gen Safety & other 3rd Gen Questions

    I bought a fully loaded 17 EL XLT (202a package adds leather, heated and cooled seats, HD tow package, nav, power Hatch, remote start etc). Certified pre owned covers the motor to 100k miles which is when I'll be getting rid of it. Partly because of the motor but mostly because we only drive...
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    Adding power boards

    My wife is not happy with the narrow factory running boards on our 17 expedition. I know the limited and platinums have stock power steps, but I can't seem to find aftermarket power boards (like amp power steps). Am I out of luck, can they be retrofitted from a higher trim? Are there wider...
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    First tow

    In the F150, the 08s had updated valve covers and used a one piece spark plug, should be the same for the expedition. The revision is noticeable by the color of the cops, I can't recall if black or brown is the newer style, but also the VCT solenoids were no longer externally replaceable and...
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    Axle ratio and mpg

    Not worth the loss in tow power to save a tenth of a mpg. These are heavy vehicles, if you are getting better than 12mpg in town or 15 on the highway with the 5.4 motor, you're doing all right.
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    Trans temps when towing...

    The 6r80 (used in the 10+ expeditions I believe) is designed to sit between 198 and 205 for regular unloaded operating temps. It is thermostatically controlled and doesn't even allow the fluid into the transmission oil cooler until around 200 degrees. I've seen it as high as 235 climbing a steep...
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    Rear reversing sensors

    If they are like the F150 units, you can access them from under the rear of the truck. If you have access to an inductive toner (used for many wiring diagnostics, especially telephone work), you will hear them click with the inductive wand. They get crud in the connections and might just need...
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    Tuner model

    87 performance tow tune loaded, tows like a locomotive!
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    2008 V-8 vs. 2016 V-6 on the Road

    Have you had any motor or transmission issues with the ecoboost, tow much with it? I have a 100k powertrain warranty on mine and plan on keeping it till that warranty is up (67k more miles to go)...
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    First tow

    The two piece spark plug issue was solved in late 07. I know that for the F150 at least, 09 was the first year with the 6r80 six speed transmission (but they didn't get select shift until 11 when the 5.0 and 3.5 were introduced). The expedition soldiered on with the 5.4 (and no select shift)...

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