04 navigator-need advice-front end noise

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I am looking at an 04 Navigator. The older woman who owns it rarely drives it (she hates it bc it’s too big). So yesterday I looked it over-typical amount of rust, looked ok for its age, scanner revealed no codes and no incomplete drive cycles, decent Michelin tires, new battery. I took it for a short drive and it seemed fine. I decided to try 4wd-it seemed to engage as it did the usual 4wd thing when I turned rather sharply. So I flipped the switch back to 2wd and continued through the parking lot I had turned into. Well something was making a rubbing noise as the wheels were turning. It was not constant but it was a consistent timing that coincided with the revolution of the tires. It sounded like drivers side front-definitely front though. It did seem like it wasn’t rolling as freely as it should so I thought maybe a caliper had stuck. I drove it back about maybe 6 blocks. Neither front rotor was warmer than the other and I did not smell any hot brake odor. I know it is related to not being driven and something is seizing or not disengaging in the 4wd. Luckily the woman was sitting outside and heard the noise as I pulled in. She already hates the vehicle and now she knows the front end is making a noise. I totally lowballed her then left. I’m hoping we can come to a reasonable agreement but I need to know what you all think could be making the noise in the front end. I do most work myself but if it’s something I need to take to a garage, I have to factor in possible repair costs before making a larger offer. Thank you for any advice
 

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Are you familiar with failing wheel bearing noise? Did the noise get worse or better when turning a certain direction?
 

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I'm with Bain, either wheel bearing going bad or possible four wheel drive sensor activating when it's not supposed to.

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it could be anything
i would turn the tire to the side a pop a looksee underneath

she probably has relatives who also drive it recklessly. it could be a CV joint, warped rotor, it could be a bad differential at worse (big money)
you should really get under and try to look for things like this
 
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Thank you for the suggestions. I did end up buying the vehicle for a pretty reasonable price. Upon driving it again, the noise seems to have all but stopped. I think from sitting the 4wd may not have fully disengaged or something. I agree with the sensor suggestion as the tire pressure light is on. I plane to give it a good once over before driving it. I’ve done hubs, ball joints, tie rods, brake jobs, etc in the past so I’m hoping I will be a able to spot a pending problem if there is one.

Thank you all for the help!
 

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Wait a minute, you can't leave us all hanging regarding the price of the vehicle.
 
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OK-but first......what would you value an 04 Navigator at? I am in NE NY, so it has some rust. Rockers have started to rust through but not all the way up yet. The vehicle looks like it has been very well taken care of-not real dirty. Even under the drivers floor mat, the rug is pretty clean with no salt crust. Seats all good-no rips or tears. It has very minor dings and a couple small cracks in plastic. Tires are 50% or more. I noticed the front was oily, when I mentioned it she said she had to replace a trans line (made sense-looked like a new line and the oily area matched up to another expy I had that had a leak in that line). Air suspension appears to work OK, drove fine (except for the noisy glitch at first), brakes seem good, fluids all good and not burnt smelling. No oil leaks under it. Original asking price was $5000 and she had come down to $4500 (it had been posted for a couple of months). Underneath had normal amount of rust-nothing looked noticeably rotted out.

What’s your guess.....then I’ll tell you!!


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KBB says $4,300 private party... I'll guess you picked it up for $2,900.
 

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How many miles? That's the huge swing in price. My 2000 I bought for $3,000 4 years back. It needed 2 tires when I bought it, but not much else. Mine had a low 64k showing .

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140k range. I was glad to find it-navigators are few and far between. I have EB expy-same year. It’s just not the same!


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140k range. I was glad to find it-navigators are few and far between. I have EB expy-same year. It’s just not the same!


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Huh, Chicago is the opposite, plenty of Navigators but few expeditions. Primarily because the navigator is used by taxi & limo companies as a business class limos
 

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Problem is navigators used for Livery then sold are high mileage junkers. Who wants a 300 k Navigator? It needs everything.

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It seems OK now but I will keep that in mind if it acts up again. Thank you.


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