2014 limited vs 2015 limited?

[Pickle]

newbie here - my husband and I have 2 options to buy used:

2014 limited, 2nd row bucket seats, 30000 miles
Or
2015 limited, 2nd row bench seat, 60000 miles

They are both around the same price.

Questions:
1)other than the difference in fuel economy, which is comparable enough, is there a reason to go with one over the other?
2)Are the safety features in the 2015 worth the extra miles?
3)Is the middle seat in the 2nd row removable on the 2015? We have two kids in car seats so the flip-forward option to access the back is not really ideal.

Thank you! I think we have over-thought it at this point and are going in circles.

 

[JExpedition07]

2014, half the mileage and still pretty new. Lots of good safety features on the 2014 you should have both front and rear park aides, front and side airbags, Sync, and AdvanceTrac RSC. Fuel economy on the two are very close 14/18 and 15/19 on 4x4 models.

My 2007 with the 5.4L Triton is now at 164,000 miles and hasn’t skipped a beat, I have nothing but good to say about the motor.

 

[coolzzy]

That's a big difference in miles, I'd lean towards the 15 to get the ecoboost and electric power steering but only if a warranty were provided. Is the 14 certified pre owned? If so, go that route, the 5.4 is a good motor but check the gears, don't buy one I less it has 3.73 gears! You'll regret it later if you end up with 3.31s. A tune really wakes up the 5.4 but it can't compare to the ecoboost in terms of power and torque for towing.

 

[coolzzy]

Oh and the middle bench seat unbolts (7 bolts) and can be removed. I just pulled it out of my 17 and the kids love it, much easier to get into the third row. You'll have to put the bolts back into the holes after removing the seat since the bolt holes go straight through the floor, and you'll have to order the carpet floor mat from one with buckets to cover the holes in the carpet that are exposed when you pull the middle seat.

 

[07xln]

Ecoboost

 

[JExpedition07]

Good point on the axle ratios, most came with 3.73, which is what I’d stick with on either. The ecoboost has great low end torque for towing. The 5.4L also has good torque for towing as it’s an over square (long stroke) engine. Both will be rated to pull the same with the HD tow package.

 

[Flexpedition]

LOL.... The lady mentions having two car seats and somehow the advice turns to performance? You are going to supercharge the shit out of this truck, right ma'am? If you really want to snap their little necks, I'd suggest a 100 shot of NOS and 4.10 gears. In either the 14 or the 15, it doesn't matter. Be sure to check out our off-road section while you are here.

Get the 14 with less miles, because in 2-3 years, its going to make even less of a difference than it does right now.

 

[07xln]

Questions:
1)other than the difference in fuel economy, which is comparable enough, is there a reason to go with one over the other?

LOL.... The lady mentions having two car seats and somehow the advice turns to performance?

I think talk of performance is warranted here

 

[UncleDJ]

A lot of these folks love the ecoboost, but the 5.4 is a rock solid motor

 

[Pickle]

Thanks everyone! My husband definitely cares about the performance aspect for the odd time he will need to tow something, but my concern is mainly the day to day utility - we live in Calgary so winter performance is super important to me. I will show him this thread so he can have a more pointed conversation with the dealer! Both vehicles are certified pre-owned thankfully.

 

[dlcorbett]

The 2015 is quieter amd smoother as well. But comfort is exactly the same. I would see how they bith achieved the miles, hwy or city, off road, region owned etc

 

[Adieu]

Get the '15 or see if you can find a navigator (same truck underneath except no 4L on the 4x4, but better sound insulation, better infotainment package and stereo, years earlier standardization of tech like park sensors and cameras....fewwer cupholders for some unfathomable reason though)

With the 14, remember, prestige pricing really fizzles for vehicles that are two redesigns old. It's an almost new very expensove truck --- that no longer looks like an almost new very expensive truck

Resale on the '14 will be far worse on account of being technologically 1.5 and visually 2 generations behind current.

Seats are easily removable, swappable, tradeable etc.

You'd do better to look into EL vs. SWB, seating is unaffected but long trucks ride a bunch smoother and short trucks have NO cargo space to speak of unless you fold or remove seats.

Then again, parking an EL in some urban environments can be kind of a nightmare

Also....it's a fullsize truck design, you can safely consider FAR higher mileage examples to save quite a few bucks and get a more fully loaded vehicle

 

[JExpedition07]

The resale will be close. I’ve shopped around on both styles and they are both 3rd gens that depreciate about the same.

 

[dlcorbett]

True...if infotainment is your thing, the 15 system even with that version of sync 2 is lightyears better than sync 1, when it works that is. However the sound system in the 14 is vastly superior to the sony system. As long is its been taken care of well, any fs suv under 100k will have a long life. Though your looking at ltd, navis are nice pieces if you can get over the exterior looks. They are supremely quiet, seats are better, ride fantastic, smoother powertrains in both forms, and the thx system is a wrk from the gods.

 

[Adieu]

The resale will be close. I’ve shopped around on both styles and they are both 3rd gens that depreciate about the same.

Right now, yes, people aren't quite used to the new Expeditions yet

But in a couple years it won't be "newish", but rather an OLDER VERSION OF AN OLDER VERSION

Ultimately, a '14 is pretty much identical to an '07 in the same mileage and condition


It'll be like selling a 1st gen in 2007-2008

 

[coolzzy]

If both have warranty, go for the ecoboost. With 3.73 gears the ecoboost is an ecobeast when it comes to towing. I've owned both now (had the 5.4 in a 2010 Platinum F150 with max tow package), and after my first mountain toe this weekend with the ecoboost expedition EL, there is just no comparison when it comes to low rpm torque and power. The 5.4 is a great towing motor but really works in higher Rev range for its power compared to the twin turbo. It also doesn't have near the torque so it will downshift more on hills. I'll get rid of my expy before the warranty runs out at 100k miles but will enjoy it(and properly maintain it) until then. I've towed with lots of gas motors and the ecoboost tops the chart in my book as far as performance goes, both towing and not.

 

[JExpedition07]

True...if infotainment is your thing, the 15 system even with that version of sync 2 is lightyears better than sync 1, when it works that is. However the sound system in the 14 is vastly superior to the sony system. As long is its been taken care of well, any fs suv under 100k will have a long life. Though your looking at ltd, navis are nice pieces if you can get over the exterior looks. They are supremely quiet, seats are better, ride fantastic, smoother powertrains in both forms, and the thx system is a wrk from the gods.

That is true the audio system on the 15-17 expy doesn’t have the power or sound quality the audio system in the 07-14 trucks have.

 

[Adieu]

True...if infotainment is your thing, the 15 system even with that version of sync 2 is lightyears better than sync 1, when it works that is. However the sound system in the 14 is vastly superior to the sony system. As long is its been taken care of well, any fs suv under 100k will have a long life. Though your looking at ltd, navis are nice pieces if you can get over the exterior looks. They are supremely quiet, seats are better, ride fantastic, smoother powertrains in both forms, and the thx system is a wrk from the gods.

How's the Navi THX compare vs. Expy Sony & vs. aftermarket rigs?

I've only had the expy base SSV radio so nothing to compare it to

 

[dlcorbett]

The thx system is probably the best system ive heard in a vehicle so far. Its worlds better than the sony system, and has better sound quality than the premium 14 system. If i had to rank id say thx system is #1, harman kardon in bmw 7 series is #2, bose system in eacalade #3, ford b&o #4, volvo xc90 base system #5...the premium audio in the...07 to 14 expy is right after that as well as the infinity systems in the newer hyundais

 

[Adieu]

Wow... better than harman kardon and bose?


Btw it's not THX, it's "THX certified" (another one of those mystery patent-related labels like Dolby afaik).

What it actually is, I have no clue