jeff kushner
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I had the tranny slipping in my 2003 Expy with 171K on the clock and considering that I had battled so many things from it raining as much inside the truck as outside, headgasket leak until I poured in a bottle of hoogie sauce, never did get both power mirrors to work on the SAME day....it just got to the point with it slipping that it wasn't salvageable.
I drove the new and used Tahoes. For example, a 2015 Tahoe with 31K on the clock will still run around 35-40 thousand dollars....way too much for a two year old truck. Used Expeditions are MUCH less expensive but then you never really know what you are getting.
I wasn't too excited about the new ones until I found that they come with the twin turbo 3.5 V6 that makes 365hp/420ftlb. The 5.4 just never impressed me with it's record of blown spark plug threads, broken headgaskets and low power. The new Tahoe made decent power but when I drove the Expedition, I was pretty surprised!
It was only a couple years ago that I had posted here about getting my replacement(the 2003 EB) Expedition. It was a nice, very clean truck but I was never completely happy with it. After it overheated while sitting in the field as we set up camp in Mid-Ohio at a vintage bike show after towing the trailer over the baby mountains of PA told me that it wasn't long for this world. A week or two ago the transmission began slipping. First with a shudder at hywy speeds instead of accelerating then it began slipping in the lower gears too.
Friday was a day off for me so I drove down to talk with a friend who owns a repair shop...his advice was to dump it. The thing is, it's been over 10 years since I had a car payment. I spent the rest of the day doing my homework, finding money rates and truck values. I also went down to a dealer and drove a used Tahoe with 18K on the clock....their starting price was 41K...wow. The going rate for that truck was really in the mid30's though.
Saturday, my baby and I went out shopping and drove used Tahoes with 44K & 32K but heck, they still get 30-40K for 2 year old trucks! We drove a new Tahoe too and went to a Nissan dealer and drove a new Armada(hated that truck). We went to one Ford dealer and drove the new Expeditions but they were taking out the door numbers in the 50's and just didn't seem to act interested(didn't cut their price by appreciable amounts) until someone there must have done his homework while we were out driving their truck. Then they completely changed their tune when we returned but I had already told Kerry that we were leaving after getting back. It was funny how they followed us out the door but my baby is so gracious with people. Then we went to a Carmax I got one the guy to run numbers on a 2014 with 7k on the clock but on a used truck the best money I found on Friday was 2.1% which isn't much but by the time you balance that against the delta of 0% over 3 or 4 yrs, there is a difference of close to 2 grand on 41K. So you have to figure that as well.
I was a little frustrated by then and suggested going home since it was 6PM but Kerry motivated me to going to another Ford dealer that I found on my phone about 20 miles away from our location. We drove another Expedition and hemmed and hawed until leaving with a fist full of numbers. Either a plain XLT with sunroof and climate cntrld seats (two opts I really like) or a nicer model. Once we got back into the car I did some serious number crunching with my phone going dead from use and realized that they had discounted the truck nearly 17K!....so I called the Manager on the phone and told him if he gave me 2k more, we'd turn around& he would sell a truck tonight...he tried to split it but I refused telling him how lucky he had been that Kerry had been present, because I had been so nice to him, but I'm a real ****** when alone....he hesitated then agreed....so we went back. It was by then, after 8PM. Of course the final numbers “forgot” part of that 2K but the Mgr Mark came to Chris’s office and added it back when I balked(I had told Kerry on the way back they would do that).
Long story short is I ended up getting a new toy for 0% money, out the door for only 4K more out the door than the '14 Tahoe would have been and it's worlds nicer than my old truck.... the twin turbo engine makes 375HP/470FTlb torque....or 365/420 depending where you read the specs. Either way, it moves nearly 3 tons of steel pretty quickly and much better than the old 5.4V8.
Kerry reminded me on the way home while we were talking car to car that they had agreed to give me 1500 for my old truck but then forgot it and just showed it as an additional discount so I still have the old truck...and it has new tires too! OOOOH! LOL
The timing couldn't have been better since I just got the renewal notice for my tags from the MVA so I'll drop them off tonight, then I'll dump the old truck somewhere.
The very best part is that I just refi'ed my house so my new total outlay is just a 170 more than it was in Aug! LMAO!!
jeff
I drove the new and used Tahoes. For example, a 2015 Tahoe with 31K on the clock will still run around 35-40 thousand dollars....way too much for a two year old truck. Used Expeditions are MUCH less expensive but then you never really know what you are getting.
I wasn't too excited about the new ones until I found that they come with the twin turbo 3.5 V6 that makes 365hp/420ftlb. The 5.4 just never impressed me with it's record of blown spark plug threads, broken headgaskets and low power. The new Tahoe made decent power but when I drove the Expedition, I was pretty surprised!
It was only a couple years ago that I had posted here about getting my replacement(the 2003 EB) Expedition. It was a nice, very clean truck but I was never completely happy with it. After it overheated while sitting in the field as we set up camp in Mid-Ohio at a vintage bike show after towing the trailer over the baby mountains of PA told me that it wasn't long for this world. A week or two ago the transmission began slipping. First with a shudder at hywy speeds instead of accelerating then it began slipping in the lower gears too.
Friday was a day off for me so I drove down to talk with a friend who owns a repair shop...his advice was to dump it. The thing is, it's been over 10 years since I had a car payment. I spent the rest of the day doing my homework, finding money rates and truck values. I also went down to a dealer and drove a used Tahoe with 18K on the clock....their starting price was 41K...wow. The going rate for that truck was really in the mid30's though.
Saturday, my baby and I went out shopping and drove used Tahoes with 44K & 32K but heck, they still get 30-40K for 2 year old trucks! We drove a new Tahoe too and went to a Nissan dealer and drove a new Armada(hated that truck). We went to one Ford dealer and drove the new Expeditions but they were taking out the door numbers in the 50's and just didn't seem to act interested(didn't cut their price by appreciable amounts) until someone there must have done his homework while we were out driving their truck. Then they completely changed their tune when we returned but I had already told Kerry that we were leaving after getting back. It was funny how they followed us out the door but my baby is so gracious with people. Then we went to a Carmax I got one the guy to run numbers on a 2014 with 7k on the clock but on a used truck the best money I found on Friday was 2.1% which isn't much but by the time you balance that against the delta of 0% over 3 or 4 yrs, there is a difference of close to 2 grand on 41K. So you have to figure that as well.
I was a little frustrated by then and suggested going home since it was 6PM but Kerry motivated me to going to another Ford dealer that I found on my phone about 20 miles away from our location. We drove another Expedition and hemmed and hawed until leaving with a fist full of numbers. Either a plain XLT with sunroof and climate cntrld seats (two opts I really like) or a nicer model. Once we got back into the car I did some serious number crunching with my phone going dead from use and realized that they had discounted the truck nearly 17K!....so I called the Manager on the phone and told him if he gave me 2k more, we'd turn around& he would sell a truck tonight...he tried to split it but I refused telling him how lucky he had been that Kerry had been present, because I had been so nice to him, but I'm a real ****** when alone....he hesitated then agreed....so we went back. It was by then, after 8PM. Of course the final numbers “forgot” part of that 2K but the Mgr Mark came to Chris’s office and added it back when I balked(I had told Kerry on the way back they would do that).
Long story short is I ended up getting a new toy for 0% money, out the door for only 4K more out the door than the '14 Tahoe would have been and it's worlds nicer than my old truck.... the twin turbo engine makes 375HP/470FTlb torque....or 365/420 depending where you read the specs. Either way, it moves nearly 3 tons of steel pretty quickly and much better than the old 5.4V8.
Kerry reminded me on the way home while we were talking car to car that they had agreed to give me 1500 for my old truck but then forgot it and just showed it as an additional discount so I still have the old truck...and it has new tires too! OOOOH! LOL
The timing couldn't have been better since I just got the renewal notice for my tags from the MVA so I'll drop them off tonight, then I'll dump the old truck somewhere.
The very best part is that I just refi'ed my house so my new total outlay is just a 170 more than it was in Aug! LMAO!!
jeff
