JasonH
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Looks like Ford finally had it come-to-Jesus moment.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-battery-production-in-u-s-to-avoid-shortages
2022 hybrid option? yes please
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Looks like Ford finally had it come-to-Jesus moment.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-battery-production-in-u-s-to-avoid-shortages
Expedition Dave
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Sorry if this is a hijack---
Someone asked me a few days ago if I would ever own an all electric vehicle.
Based upon my situation, I will have to say no. I like vehicles with more capabilities, and no more than 5 minutes at a pump to add another 300-500 miles of range.
Now, Hybrids? Yeah, I have. I have personally considered the Prius (though the thought of a bear riding a unicycle comes to mind) and when I looked at the price was like... this can't be right. Equipped with a lot of tech, it was not much above $20K (maybe 5 yrs ago). Even now, the base model is still (well equipped standard) at $24k, the loaded topping out at $34K.
Take a look at what Kias and Hyundais are going for $$$ now, and tell me that Toyota MSRP is not subsidized?
Personally, I think Toyota (and others) might be missing out with the Prius platform. I *think* a model like a small hybrid pickup truck with a bit more power/towing capacity and even add an off-road model 4x4 / AWD / rear locker. And if not now, in the future. Think Farmers, ranchers, local parts stores, urban delivery, etc.
Just a guess, but think of what people pay for Gators and Razors ($20-35K) and imagine a small "kei car" hybrid with a lot of capacity and the ability to be used on public highways in every state. Imagine the below with Prius running gear, Toyota quality, AWD and rear locker in a crew cab with a short bed, and can carry and tow reasonably more (more than a gator or quad or rail thinggie).
The below would obviously have be more 'Muricanized but you get the idea...
Someone asked me a few days ago if I would ever own an all electric vehicle.
Based upon my situation, I will have to say no. I like vehicles with more capabilities, and no more than 5 minutes at a pump to add another 300-500 miles of range.
Now, Hybrids? Yeah, I have. I have personally considered the Prius (though the thought of a bear riding a unicycle comes to mind) and when I looked at the price was like... this can't be right. Equipped with a lot of tech, it was not much above $20K (maybe 5 yrs ago). Even now, the base model is still (well equipped standard) at $24k, the loaded topping out at $34K.
Take a look at what Kias and Hyundais are going for $$$ now, and tell me that Toyota MSRP is not subsidized?
Personally, I think Toyota (and others) might be missing out with the Prius platform. I *think* a model like a small hybrid pickup truck with a bit more power/towing capacity and even add an off-road model 4x4 / AWD / rear locker. And if not now, in the future. Think Farmers, ranchers, local parts stores, urban delivery, etc.
Just a guess, but think of what people pay for Gators and Razors ($20-35K) and imagine a small "kei car" hybrid with a lot of capacity and the ability to be used on public highways in every state. Imagine the below with Prius running gear, Toyota quality, AWD and rear locker in a crew cab with a short bed, and can carry and tow reasonably more (more than a gator or quad or rail thinggie).
The below would obviously have be more 'Muricanized but you get the idea...
Calidad
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The Prius is really dated. First off you can’t even buy a used one with less than 30k on it for $20k today.Sorry if this is a hijack---
Someone asked me a few days ago if I would ever own an all electric vehicle.
Based upon my situation, I will have to say no. I like vehicles with more capabilities, and no more than 5 minutes at a pump to add another 300-500 miles of range.
Now, Hybrids? Yeah, I have. I have personally considered the Prius (though the thought of a bear riding a unicycle comes to mind) and when I looked at the price was like... this can't be right. Equipped with a lot of tech, it was not much above $20K (maybe 5 yrs ago). Even now, the base model is still (well equipped standard) at $24k, the loaded topping out at $34K.
Take a look at what Kias and Hyundais are going for $$$ now, and tell me that Toyota MSRP is not subsidized?
Personally, I think Toyota (and others) might be missing out with the Prius platform. I *think* a model like a small hybrid pickup truck with a bit more power/towing capacity and even add an off-road model 4x4 / AWD / rear locker. And if not now, in the future. Think Farmers, ranchers, local parts stores, urban delivery, etc.
Just a guess, but think of what people pay for Gators and Razors ($20-35K) and imagine a small "kei car" hybrid with a lot of capacity and the ability to be used on public highways in every state. Imagine the below with Prius running gear, Toyota quality, AWD and rear locker in a crew cab with a short bed, and can carry and tow reasonably more (more than a gator or quad or rail thinggie).
The below would obviously have be more 'Muricanized but you get the idea...
In 2016 when the T3 wasn’t out yet and we needed a commuter car with C level interior quality the only vehicle on the market other than the Tesla S or X was the Ford Fusion Energi.
A mid trim Prius with no ability to connect cellphone in 2016 was $32,000 before taxes. That was for plastic doctors office exam table seat cover material and a noisy interior that did not support business calls during your commute. Lousy seat ergonomics also.
Our Fusion Energi Titanium with sport seats was $34,400 negotiated with $7500 in tax credits. 70,000 miles zero issues 62mpg life time average. My neighbors 2016 plugin Prius has a 43mpg average and he hated it so much he gave it to a neighbor kid last year when COVID put him at the home office. He’s waiting for a hybrid Bronco.
Expedition Dave
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I just priced about 10 Prius at $24K new yesterday, around the country. I've ridden in one and thought it was fine. Even if dated. Have not ridden in any other, more modern hybrids, but I'd expect they'd be better. And yes, and subsidized by our tax-dollars.
Matthew Marlowe
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Check out testing on pickuptalk YouTube channel, f150 can be set to monitor inverter and turn on engine only when needed in a standby type mode. So, you can camp overnight in rv turning on rv heater without leaving truck on continuously.
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