Dexos Oil

[NorthGeorgia]

Maybe a dump question but shall ask anyway.

Oil change for a 2017 is scheduled at 10K miles. I get a 'free' oil change when that mile is reached. But in the mean time (mid time) I am going to change the oil (myself) at the 5K point. Hard to believe but I can't find the Motorcraft 5w-30 'blend' oil? I find the 5w-20 but not the 30. But, I can find the Quaker State but it has a label of DEXOS on it which is a GM label. Should I stay away from this 'label' oil?

 

[J Ski]

Oil should b changed at 5k mile intervals. Idk who told u 10k

 

[NorthGeorgia]

Oil should b changed at 5k mile intervals. Idk who told u 10k

Ford is who said/says so. My vehicle is scheduled at 7500-10,000 depending on driving conditions. I suppose I would choose the 7500. But my point on this post was about the oil BRAND. I can't find Motorcraft 5w-30 which is what I need. Seems like everyone has 5w-20 but not the 30. So my original question was asking about using one I can find but it is labeled DEXOS which is a GM label need. Do I use it or stay away from it. That was my question.

 

[J Ski]

Ford is who said/says so. My vehicle is scheduled at 7500-10,000 depending on driving conditions. I suppose I would choose the 7500. But my point on this post was about the oil BRAND. I can't find Motorcraft 5w-30 which is what I need. Seems like everyone has 5w-20 but not the 30. So my original question was asking about using one I can find but it is labeled DEXOS which is a GM label need. Do I use it or stay away from it. That was my question.

Not too familiar with that type. I only get what ford uses. Next oil change will be a switch to full synthetic the dealership uses

 

[JExpedition07]

Changing it at 5k intervals is a good idea, 10k is not a good interval no mater what ford says. 5W-30 Ford oil is available at most walmarts and auto stores if you look around. It will be at a Walmart for sure.

 

[Michael McC]

I read a study on oil changes in the '90's or so done on New York cabs. The study varied the brand of oil and the oil change interval. Engines were taken apart and analyzed after so many miles. The conclusion was that the brand of oil did not matter. Regular changes made all the difference. I think they advocated every 3K miles.

Since then I have bought the cheapest oil of the proper grade. When full synthetic came along I started using it, with changes every 8-10K miles. No engine problems, but we don't keep cars much past 120K miles. My 2003 Exp FX4 went 150K before selling it. Ran fine on 10K oil changes with the cheapest full synthetic I could find on sale. If you use regular oil, 3-5K oil changes are best. Blends, 5-7.5K between changes. Just my opinion and experience.

On further research, not exactly as I remembered it:

Saturday, June 29, 1996 - Page updated at 12:00 AM

Auto Report

Two-Year, N.Y. Taxi Test Proves Motor Oils Alike, Magazine Says
Seattle Times News Services


NEW YORK - Premium motor oil and fancy additives are nothing more than slick sales, Consumer Reports says.

The consumer watchdog tested 20 types of motor oil under the most grueling conditions - in a fleet of 75 New York taxis - for nearly two years.

The results: There is little difference among brands as long as the container carries the starburst symbol, which means the oil meets a standard set by the American Petroleum Institute for additives needed to keep modern engines running.

The study also found:

-- Changing a car's oil every 7,500 miles, or at the automaker's suggested interval, is sufficient. Although some mechanics recommend oil changes every 3,000 miles, that only wastes money and adds to the nation's oil-disposal problems.

-- Expensive synthetic oils worked no better than conventional motor oil in the taxis, which drove 4.5 million miles in stop-and-go traffic. But synthetic oils may be worthwhile for cars in extreme driving conditions: very hot or very cold climates, or in cars with a high engine load.

-- Additives such as Slick 50, STP Engine Treatment and STP Oil Treatment showed no significant reduction in friction and engine wear compared with engines using the same oil without the additives. Consumer Reports said additives are unnecessary as long as the oil used meets the API standard.

The findings are reported in the July issue of the magazine.

 

[J Ski]

I know some people on here do 3500 mile changes with full synthetic due to the DI issues the ecoboosts have. Gotta keep the insides as clean as you can or they will get gummed up. @NorthGeorgia i also recommend cleaning your intake manifold MAP sensor at every oil change. This can cause below average fuel economy if it’s oiled up

 

[Tim Fuller]

The DEXOS tag on the Quakerstate just means it is dexos approved for GM warranty purposes. That's their out for engine failure... "sorry, you didn't use a dexos approved oil, your engine is no longer covered by warranty"

 

[NorthGeorgia]

Well.....I can see there will be a lot of 'personal' preferences.....myself included. I too don't really agree with the 10K oil interval but......... Ford says that 'can' be an acceptable interval ..... depending on the type of driving being done. I have checked my oil 'life' % and it is showing 57% remaining and that's with 4400 miles on the odometer; which would seem to indicate the 10K oil change?? No I won't wait till 10K, I'm looking to change the oil now. BUT I CAN'T FIND THE OIL.....ANYWHERE. None of the Walmart's have it......except I did find it in a quart bottle. Why didn't I buy it....there were only a couple. The quart costs shy of $5 and the 5 quart bottle costs shy of $19....a big savings being able to buy it in the 5qt bottle. Plenty of 5w-20.....but none of the 30?? The strange thing is there is not much in the 5w-30 syn/blend in any brand EXCEPT one's labeled HIGH MILEAGE, which is advertised for 75K+ mile vehicles?? Sooooo, I have a couple of weeks left to change the oil (going on a trip so want to change it before going). Got the filter, plenty of those, just need the proper weight oil.

 

[NorthGeorgia]

OK....I am starting to wonder if the HIGH MILEAGE that all the manufacture's are putting on their 5w-30 is just a advertisement gimmick? Since most older vehicles seem to have been using 10w-30 is the 5w a gimmick to get the older vehicles to use it.
I found a name brand oil that has 5w-30 but they too use the HIGH MILEAGE in their label. But........part of their description does say:

Havoline High Mileage Motor Oils with Deposit Shield Technology are also recommended for use in lower-mileage vehicles, including new cars under warranty.

So I'm tempted to buy this since I cannot find the Motorcraft. I've used Havoline in years past in other vehicles and had no problems. Soooooooooooooooo

 

[AllBoostNoEco]

It’s not an advertising gimmick, it’s a different additive package designed to help reduce oil consumption. No reason it shouldn’t work just fine in your truck. Motorcraft oil is API SM, that Havoline is SN, so it meets specifications.
Given all that, why not order the Motorcraft oil through Amazon for $27.99 for the 5-quart if you have a couple of weeks?

 

[ExpeditionAndy]

Oil should b changed at 5k mile intervals. Idk who told u 10k

From the 2017 Owner's Manual

Protecting Your Investment

Maintenance is an investment that pays
dividends in the form of improved
reliability, durability and resale value. To
maintain the proper performance of your
vehicle and its emission control systems,
make sure you have scheduled
maintenance performed at the designated
intervals.

Your vehicle is equipped with the
Intelligent Oil-Life Monitor system, which
displays a message in the information
display at the proper oil change interval.
This interval may be up to one year or
10000 miles (16000 kilometers).

When the oil change message appears in
the information display, it is time for an oil
change. Make sure you perform the oil
change within two weeks or 500 miles
(800 kilometers) of the message
appearing. Make sure you reset the
Intelligent Oil-Life Monitor after each oil
change. See Oil Change Indicator Reset
(page 245).

If your information display resets
prematurely or becomes inoperative, you
should perform the oil change interval at
six months or 5000 miles (8000
kilometers) from your last oil change.
Never exceed one year or 10000 miles
(16000 kilometers) between oil change
intervals.

 

[Expedition007]

I bought 5w30 motorcraft at my local Walmart in Nashville... they had both 5w20 and 5w30 in 1 or 5qt, red containers. Bought my motorcraft filter there as well.

 

[JExpedition07]

From the 2017 Owner's Manual

Protecting Your Investment

Maintenance is an investment that pays
dividends in the form of improved
reliability, durability and resale value. To
maintain the proper performance of your
vehicle and its emission control systems,
make sure you have scheduled
maintenance performed at the designated
intervals.

Your vehicle is equipped with the
Intelligent Oil-Life Monitor system, which
displays a message in the information
display at the proper oil change interval.
This interval may be up to one year or
10000 miles (16000 kilometers).

When the oil change message appears in
the information display, it is time for an oil
change. Make sure you perform the oil
change within two weeks or 500 miles
(800 kilometers) of the message
appearing. Make sure you reset the
Intelligent Oil-Life Monitor after each oil
change. See Oil Change Indicator Reset
(page 245).

If your information display resets
prematurely or becomes inoperative, you
should perform the oil change interval at
six months or 5000 miles (8000
kilometers) from your last oil change.
Never exceed one year or 10000 miles
(16000 kilometers) between oil change
intervals.

While you *can* change it at 10k, it’s still the maximum mileage and wear the oil can take.... not ideal. Those oil life monitors are not as Intelligent as they tell us they are, plus over 10k Miles your bound to be low on level. If you do so decide to wait 10k for the change I’d recommend looking at the oil they drain, it will be jet black and probably low. Taking a look at what comes out is probably enough reason to change it earlier IMO.

 

[Trainmaster]

Here in the East, Walmart carries Motorcraft oil, usually in 5W 20 and 5W 30 at low prices. You can also get it quick on Amazon and also Rock Auto I believe. I generally use Mobil 1.

 

[sixsix]

http://www.centerforqa.com/dexos-about/

The most current dexos1™ specification (dexos1™ Gen 2) was released in 2015 to provide even higher engine performance and protection, particularly low speed pre-ignition (LSPI) protection in small displacement turbo-charged engines.

Any oil meeting the Ford spec will be fine, which is prob about 99.9% of oil on the shelf. (unless your at the dollar store)

I use Castrol Magnatech and have been happy with it. I think it's like 17.99 for a 5qt jug at wall mart.

 

[NorthGeorgia]

Maybe a dump question but shall ask anyway.

Oil change for a 2017 is scheduled at 10K miles. I get a 'free' oil change when that mile is reached. But in the mean time (mid time) I am going to change the oil (myself) at the 5K point. Hard to believe but I can't find the Motorcraft 5w-30 'blend' oil? I find the 5w-20 but not the 30. But, I can find the Quaker State but it has a label of DEXOS on it which is a GM label. Should I stay away from this 'label' oil?

Just to reiterate, Trying to find the MOTORCRAFT brand of syn/blend oil in the 5w-30 weight is difficult here in the N.E. Georgia area. 5w-20 is no problem...but not the 30. I can find other brands but ALL OF THEM SAY High Mileage. I really need to just go ahead and buy the Dexos one I saw and do the oil change at the 5K. Then when the 10K comes let the dealer do the 'free' oil change. Then afterwards I will do my own 5K-7.5K oil change which I will do with full synthetic oil.

 

[rjdelp7]

Maybe a dump question but shall ask anyway.

Oil change for a 2017 is scheduled at 10K miles. I get a 'free' oil change when that mile is reached. But in the mean time (mid time) I am going to change the oil (myself) at the 5K point. Hard to believe but I can't find the Motorcraft 5w-30 'blend' oil? I find the 5w-20 but not the 30. But, I can find the Quaker State but it has a label of DEXOS on it which is a GM label. Should I stay away from this 'label' oil?

5W20 syn-blend, is the Ford industry standard. Why are you searching for 5w30? Dexos is also syn blend, made/approved to to GM spec. Don't mess around with a new engine. Your Oil life monitor, is just a guide. Dealers hate giving the "free" oil changes. They want you to come back when other things are needed, like inspections or tire rotation. I encountered the same thing at the Lincoln dealer. I was at 6 months, with break in oil and it still wasn't ready. They actually argued with me about it. I insisted and they pulled it the back. I walked around to see into shop. I never saw them changing the oil. They told me they don't give receipts, with the free oil changes, that is was "in the computer". I think they scammed me and did nothing. I then went out and bought the oil and filter and did myself. My father had the same issue with his oil change on his Toyota. They told him, it wasn't needed. That made me wonder if special "break in" oil is used. I have been using full synthetic and change mine once a year. I own 3 vehicles and none get driven more than 4,000mi.

 

[ExpeditionAndy]

While you *can* change it at 10k, it’s still the maximum mileage and wear the oil can take.... not ideal. Those oil life monitors are not as Intelligent as they tell us they are, plus over 10k Miles your bound to be low on level. If you do so decide to wait 10k for the change I’d recommend looking at the oil they drain, it will be jet black and probably low. Taking a look at what comes out is probably enough reason to change it earlier IMO.

I was just responding to Jski's question who told North Georgia to change the oil at 10,000 miles.

I made my first oil change at 1000 miles, and I'm changing it again at 6,000 miles (which I'm short of by a couple hundred miles) and every 5,000 miles thereafter.

 

[07xln]

You don't have to use Motorcraft oil. Any 5w-30 will work. Ive used Castrol and Mobil 1 in my 17 EL

I do think the oil life monitor is somewhat intelligent. An example being just this past weekend. We went camping and brought our toy hauler loaded to the max which was probably in the 8500-9000lb range. It was 300 miles round trip. When we left the oil life was at 33% and when we returned and I got home it was at 24%. No way just normal driving for 300 miles would the monitor have dropped 9%. It knew I was pulling a load and was taxing the motor there for it adjusted. IMO that's somewhat intelligent. By the way at 33% I only had 4400 miles since my last oil change and I use full synthetic. I don't think the monitors are designed to allow you to go 7000-10000 miles before a change. I think with full synthetic 5000 is a good number to change oil at