Do your adjustable pedals work right?

[Curless Auto]

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[46L281GT]

I'd like to purchase one. Where do I need to go from here? Thanks!

 

[Curless Auto]

[email protected] paypal, $85 to your door, do not forget to include your screen name, shipping info and what vehicle you own. Any failure to do this will result in you not getting your part.

 

[superduty4x4]

Not trying to bust your balls here, just trying to improve my knowledge. $85 seems a bit steep for a little gear like this, but somewhere along the way you mentioned you were waiting for the tap to show up. Is the thread pitch on the shaft some goofy thread pitch that is hard to find a tap for, and is that what is driving the cost up?

 

[Curless Auto]

Not trying to bust your balls here, just trying to improve my knowledge. $85 seems a bit steep for a little gear like this, but somewhere along the way you mentioned you were waiting for the tap to show up. Is the thread pitch on the shaft some goofy thread pitch that is hard to find a tap for, and is that what is driving the cost up?

The tap is a metric thread which was made specifically for Ford for this assembly. Yes, I could go to China and have them made for pennies and then have to order 10,000 at a time, wait for 6 months to get them, only to have them show up the wrong size, material or something and then get told too bad. Here's the breakdown...


1. go buy a pedal assembly from a junkyard
2. tear it apart and get the gear out
3. figure out what thread pitch it is
4. have special tap made
5. purchase bronze to have the gears made
6. find a machine shop that makes gears (there are not that many out there)
7. drop off tap and material
8. go pick them up after they are produced
9. write out complete instructions for instal
10. figure out how to market them
11. answer ridiculous amounts of questions regarding fit, price, how to, etc etc
12. go buy packaging, paper (for instructions)
13. set up paypal account, e-mail, phone number
14. each time you sell one head off to the post office to ship it out
15. repeat each time you sell one.


$85 is CHEAP!

 

[Goats]

$85 is a lot cheaper than buying a whole new assembly.

 

[Skauber]

Considering the cost of a new pedal assembly which WILL break again in the future since Ford still uses the same cheap plastic gear in the service parts, the small market we are, the time it took to set up production of this on a small scale (small scale custom manufacturing is ALWAYS more expensive per part) and time to provide support and all that makes this cheap. Try to go to a machine shop and have them make one for you, I can guarantee they won't come anywhere near $85, and if there's special thread pitches needed, you're looking at several hundreds.

None of the aftermarket manufacturers bothered to do this, as the market just isn't big enough. Curless is as far as I know the only one on the planet that is making custom gears that fit, so yeah. The price is pretty fair to me. I think there's much greater value in spending money on a replacement that will outlast the vehicle, than to spend more at the dealer for a replacement that will break again after a year or two.

 

[superduty4x4]

The tap is a metric thread which was made specifically for Ford for this assembly. Yes, I could go to China and have them made for pennies and then have to order 10,000 at a time, wait for 6 months to get them, only to have them show up the wrong size, material or something and then get told too bad. Here's the breakdown...


1. go buy a pedal assembly from a junkyard
2. tear it apart and get the gear out
3. figure out what thread pitch it is
4. have special tap made
5. purchase bronze to have the gears made
6. find a machine shop that makes gears (there are not that many out there)
7. drop off tap and material
8. go pick them up after they are produced
9. write out complete instructions for instal
10. figure out how to market them
11. answer ridiculous amounts of questions regarding fit, price, how to, etc etc
12. go buy packaging, paper (for instructions)
13. set up paypal account, e-mail, phone number
14. each time you sell one head off to the post office to ship it out
15. repeat each time you sell one.


$85 is CHEAP!

Again, not criticizing you or trying to call you out, just curious what about the threads was so different or unusual. It seems like a bad move on Ford's part to use an oddball thread pitch for no reason other than perhaps they just don't care and are more interested in selling an expensive pedal assembly. Kudos to you for doing the R&D and for making a reliable replacement part available. I have a friend who is a machinist, I'll have to ask him if he's ever seen or heard of these oddball threads before.

 

[Skauber]

Ford probably used that in order to make it more difficult and expensive to make a replacement...

 

[Curless Auto]

Considering the cost of a new pedal assembly which WILL break again in the future since Ford still uses the same cheap plastic gear in the service parts, the small market we are, the time it took to set up production of this on a small scale (small scale custom manufacturing is ALWAYS more expensive per part) and time to provide support and all that makes this cheap. Try to go to a machine shop and have them make one for you, I can guarantee they won't come anywhere near $85, and if there's special thread pitches needed, you're looking at several hundreds.

None of the aftermarket manufacturers bothered to do this, as the market just isn't big enough. Curless is as far as I know the only one on the planet that is making custom gears that fit, so yeah. The price is pretty fair to me. I think there's much greater value in spending money on a replacement that will outlast the vehicle, than to spend more at the dealer for a replacement that will break again after a year or two.

Thank you for this post...you get it!

 

[ExpeditionAndy]

I've had mine for over a year now and it works great. I am very pleased with my $85 investment. If I remember correctly I bought the first one that Curless Auto sold. It is worth the money to fix it right the first time and never have to fix it again.

 

[Curless Auto]

I've had mine for over a year now and it works great. I am very pleased with my $85 investment. If I remember correctly I bought the first one that Curless Auto sold. It is worth the money to fix it right the first time and never have to fix it again.

Yes you did Andy, you were a driving force behind me building the gear in the first place. Our conversations convinced me to move forward on the project. I don't mean to sound crass or arrogant but it bothers me when over a year later I am still being questioned about price...If I could do it cheaper I would, if someone else could do it cheaper by now (3 years on the panther cars) someone would have stepped on it and sent it to China...

 

[Skauber]

Don't worry about it. The price is right, $85 shipped (at least in US, mine all the way to Philippines was obviously a little more ) really isn't bad at all. I also hope the price is sufficient to give a little salt on your table, nobody should expect you to do all this without getting a little back from it for yourself.

 

[Curless Auto]

Don't worry about it. The price is right, $85 shipped (at least in US, mine all the way to Philippines was obviously a little more ) really isn't bad at all. I also hope the price is sufficient to give a little salt on your table, nobody should expect you to do all this without getting a little back from it for yourself.

After its all said and done I clear a little but not what it would seem. Thanks for the pics of your instal I featured them on Curless Auto Repair's facebook page!

 

[Skauber]

I saw that album, thanks for posting it.

 

[Txtech]

Curless - do you still make the brass gears? I'm looking to fix my broken plastic gear on my 2003 Expedition.

 

[red423]

I want to add too, it's been a while since I installed the gear, we use our expy mostly to tow the boat, and go to Disney. Other day, my 5 foot tall better half needed to move the expy and guess what???? With the brass replacement the pedal adjustment worked flawlessly. I said before, I have peace of mind knowing one day, that one day, I will need it and in that five minutes of my wife behind the wheel, watching her adjust those pedals, was worth it. Thanks again to you guys for the upgrade..............red423

 

[Curless Auto]

Curless - do you still make the brass gears? I'm looking to fix my broken plastic gear on my 2003 Expedition.

Yes we have them in stock.

 

[46L281GT]

can't wait to get mine working again! just ordered it.