Engine Replacement On 2015 EL

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It is very hard on the coils and that's what makes a lot of them fail before they would but 30,000 is probably being very proactive about it. With modern ignition systems from the early 90s on you are fairly safe to go at least 50 or 60 thousand miles.
This does depend on the type of plug but is anybody actually using plain old copper plugs anymore?? I had on occasion but you want to change them by every 30000 because the Gap Lee Road quickly. On a standard Motorcraft or Autolite single Platinum you can go 50 or 60 thousand and probably only a road the gap 5-8 thousands.
A double Platinum is going to wear even less. Irradiance would last even longer but I don't pay the money for those. There's also a trade-off on actual spark performance. Every time you get the harder materials that last longer you get less actual spark or you get a pinpoint spark that isn't exactly the best thing to promote the best combustion but in reality it's all kind of a moot point.
Nowhere ever did anybody decide that it was a really good idea to leave plugs in a hundred thousand miles... This was simply done so the manufacturers could claim you didn't have to do a tune-up for a hundred thousand miles. Buy our new high-tech engine in our new car and you will save money on maintenance and repairs.
Just like the new Briggs & Stratton push mower engines that say never needs oil changes just check and top off. If that's not a bad idea. Nothing is. All marketing.
My 15yr old briggs & Stratton lawn mower has the original plug. Usually starts 1 pull and never misses a beat. A scored cylinder could be a bad ring, gas washing or debris. 120K in 4yrs is 30K a year. That's 6 oil changes per year(not likely). My guess it wasn't changed every 5,000mi.
 

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im going with odometer fraud on this one. pretty solid on that feeling.

if everyone only knew how easy it is to pull up an actual iATN history report (along with carfax) on a vehicle, find its actual odometer history and where the records end, and plug in a cheap chinese 100$ tool which completely reprograms the odometer.
its really criminal how there is no regulation here. manufactures can easily implement data logging and/or tampering measures which would be of great benefit to incidents such as this.

also, the law is completely careless to this serious type of fraud.
 
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im going with odometer fraud on this one. pretty solid on that feeling.

if everyone only knew how easy it is to pull up an actual iATN history report (along with carfax) on a vehicle, find its actual odometer history and where the records end, and plug in a cheap chinese 100$ tool which completely reprograms the odometer.
its really criminal how there is no regulation here. manufactures can easily implement data logging and/or tampering measures which would be of great benefit to incidents such as this.

No, he had a Carfax. Mileage is reported on there for service visits at the dealer. All you do is verify the miles didn’t suddenly go backwards or stop. He said nothing didn’t match up or seem out of ordinary so odometer fraud isn’t possible here. Plus it’s a 2015 I mean how many miles would it have lol.
 

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No, he had a Carfax. Mileage is reported on there for service visits at the dealer. All you do is verify the miles didn’t suddenly go backwards or stop. He said nothing didn’t match up or seem out of ordinary so odometer fraud isn’t possible here. Plus it’s a 2015 I mean how many miles would it have lol.

There are some super high mileage trucks out there. Though I agree fraud is likely not an issue here.
I was searching car-part.com maybe 6 months ago. There were 2 totaled 2015s that had a railroad company logo on the doors and one had 320k on the clock and the other 350k on the clock.
It looked like one rear ended the other
 

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The OP probably had fuel dilution, from neglected oil changes.
 

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No, he had a Carfax. Mileage is reported on there for service visits at the dealer. All you do is verify the miles didn’t suddenly go backwards or stop. He said nothing didn’t match up or seem out of ordinary so odometer fraud isn’t possible here. Plus it’s a 2015 I mean how many miles would it have lol.

yes, the service visits can all be legitimate, but you dont know when they begin or end. also, there are various ways to push false information to carfax now. very simple ways which involve little effort.
and, an iATN report is different from carfax. i suggest you look up on it. the point is finding the vehicles true history, its history regarding all possible odometer readings. odometer fraud is certainly possible here, im not sure what you are thinking.
 

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yes, the service visits can all be legitimate, but you dont know when they begin or end. also, there are various ways to push false information to carfax now. very simple ways which involve little effort.
and, an iATN report is different from carfax. i suggest you look up on it. the point is finding the vehicles true history, its history regarding all possible odometer readings. odometer fraud is certainly possible here, im not sure what you are thinking.

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There are some super high mileage trucks out there. Though I agree fraud is likely not an issue here.
I was searching car-part.com maybe 6 months ago. There were 2 totaled 2015s that had a railroad company logo on the doors and one had 320k on the clock and the other 350k on the clock.
It looked like one rear ended the other

ha your phone auto corrected copart.com into car-part.com
also, does anyone here think its funny how copart and the iAAi dont display or retain any vin info. and by funny, i mean its borderline criminal
ive never seen such widespread fraudulent dishonesty remain completely unregulated before.
the government seems to have very little concern with people loosing such large investments. by this logic, some may even consider the government to be criminal
 

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ha your phone auto corrected copart.com into car-part.com
also, does anyone here think its funny how copart and the iAAi dont display or retain any vin info. and by funny, i mean its borderline criminal
ive never seen such widespread fraudulent dishonesty remain completely unregulated before.
the government seems to have very little concern with people loosing such large investments. by this logic, some may even consider the government to be criminal

No autocorrect.
www.car-part.com is a nationwide salvage yard parts search.
Very good resource. Just takes so searching not always easiest to find what you are looking for.
 

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No autocorrect.
www.car-part.com is a nationwide salvage yard parts search.
Very good resource. Just takes so searching not always easiest to find what you are looking for.
I used car-part.com to find two engines recently for two friends who needed a replacement.
I'm in Ohio and one friend was in Florida. We found an excellent low mileage 4.6 for his Town Car 20 minutes from his house for $460.
 

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I used car-part.com to find two engines recently for two friends who needed a replacement.
I'm in Ohio and one friend was in Florida. We found an excellent low mileage 4.6 for his Town Car 20 minutes from his house for $460.

Ford naturally aspirated V8s are plentiful and cost pennies used

Ecoboost V6 TT's are expensive and rare
 

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Ford naturally aspirated V8s are plentiful and cost pennies used

Ecoboost V6 TT's are expensive and rare

For now....

I would assume there are some available from 1200 to $2,000.
Still less than a third of what it would cost to take it to a shop and get hammered for their 6,000 to 8,000 engine replacement.

I just checked it looks like a good number of available from 2500 to 3500. There are a few cheaper and a good number and the 3700 to 4100 range.

They will continue to drop in price as more more hit the salvage yards from wrecked l vehicles.
 
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For now....

I would assume there are some available from 1200 to $2,000.
Still less than a third of what it would cost to take it to a shop and get hammered for their 6,000 to 8,000 engine replacement.

I just checked it looks like a good number of available from 2500 to 3500. There are a few cheaper and a good number and the 3700 to 4100 range.

They will continue to drop in price as more more hit the salvage yards from wrecked l vehicles.
And as they get older. I'm surprised they get that much, it's not like to old days when you could buy a Chevy v-8 for a couple hundred bucks.
 

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And as they get older. I'm surprised they get that much, it's not like to old days when you could buy a Chevy v-8 for a couple hundred bucks.

Its not the same dollar, so when you can buy a Ford V8 for like a grand, that's pretty much the same

Reason the 3.5TT is different is that the 6 cylinder twin turbo ecobeast follows a modern, overcomplicated European design philosophy. It's pretty much an example of "what would a Ford truck engine look like if it was designed at BMW". It sacrifices simplicity, reliability, and serviceability for an extra bit of horsepower and MPG.

And it's not something you can service in the driveway with your dad/son/cousin over a couple beers.
 

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Its not the same dollar, so when you can buy a Ford V8 for like a grand, that's pretty much the same

Reason the 3.5TT is different is that the 6 cylinder twin turbo ecobeast follows a modern, overcomplicated European design philosophy. It's pretty much an example of "what would a Ford truck engine look like if it was designed at BMW". It sacrifices simplicity, reliability, and serviceability for an extra bit of horsepower and MPG.

And it's not something you can service in the driveway with your dad/son/cousin over a couple beers.
Scotty Kilmer posted a couple of videos of a ecoboost explorer. He fixed it in the driveway. 65,000mi and burning 3.5 quarts of oil, worn plugs and 2 previous turbo replacements. He summed it up with, you don't put a small engine in a big SUV...by the way VVT, variable valve timing is a Ford innovation, that everyone copied. European cars are taxed by the size of the engine. That's why they usually come with a smaller displacement. BMW uses a inline old school 6(slant or 30 degree mount), that would be better for a truck engine. Just about every Semi, uses a inline 6.
 
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Scotty Kilmer posted a couple of videos of a ecoboost explorer. He fixed it in the driveway. 65,000mi and burning 3.5 quarts of oil, worn plugs and 2 previous turbo replacements. He summed it up with, you don't put a small engine in a big SUV...by the way VVT, variable valve timing is a Ford innovation, that everyone copied. European cars are taxed by the size of the engine. That's why they usually come with a smaller displacement. BMW uses a inline old school 6, that would be better for a truck engine. Just about every Semi, uses a inline 6.

Give that guy a cameraman with a cellphone and a handle of rotgut, and he'll happily bluster through an instructible on how to fix a nuclear reactor in your driveway


As to the BMW thing, yeah bimmers are inline vs Ecoboost being V6, but trust me all the stuff with ecoboost people talk about is very familiar to anyone who's had a bimmer *35 i/d engine (which are actually 2996 cc, but that's beside the point). Tight, hot as hell, twin turbo, CBU issues, gazillion electronic sensors... all familiar territory
 

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Its not the same dollar, so when you can buy a Ford V8 for like a grand, that's pretty much the same

Reason the 3.5TT is different is that the 6 cylinder twin turbo ecobeast follows a modern, overcomplicated European design philosophy. It's pretty much an example of "what would a Ford truck engine look like if it was designed at BMW". It sacrifices simplicity, reliability, and serviceability for an extra bit of horsepower and MPG.

And it's not something you can service in the driveway with your dad/son/cousin over a couple beers.
That's what they say about every new generation of vehicles and engines but it doesn't work out that way. There's just a lag for a few years until enough of the used ones hit the repair shops and then hit the backyard mechanics. Just think back to around 1993 or 1994 when everyone was talking bad and scared of the 4.6 because it was overhead valve and import or European design style and had those giant long twin timing chains.
Now we're talking about them like they're old school Antiques and simple to work on! It's all about time, becoming familiar, and conditioning.
 
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