HD tow and required addons

[Calman2k]

Hi all, I'm looking at getting a new expedition max and I'm wondering if i am seeing things right. Is it true you can't get the HD tow without leather seats and 2nd row captain's chairs?
I would like HD tow, but need the middle seat (to carry more people) and I still have car seats, which just murders leather seats.
Is Ford really going to make me choose a competitor because of their limited options?

 

[99WhiteC5Coupe]

Hi all, I'm looking at getting a new expedition max and I'm wondering if i am seeing things right. Is it true you can't get the HD tow without leather seats and 2nd row captain's chairs?
I would like HD tow, but need the middle seat (to carry more people) and I still have car seats, which just murders leather seats.
Is Ford really going to make me choose a competitor because of their limited options?

Have you reviewed the 2024 order guide or spoken with a sales person? Where did you get this information?

 

[jjscsix]

Hi all, I'm looking at getting a new expedition max and I'm wondering if i am seeing things right. Is it true you can't get the HD tow without leather seats and 2nd row captain's chairs?
I would like HD tow, but need the middle seat (to carry more people) and I still have car seats, which just murders leather seats.
Is Ford really going to make me choose a competitor because of their limited options?

I was doing builds on the new Mustang for a couple of months before they hit dealers. There were a number of options that said you had to get the Performance package to get those options. But when the cars started hitting dealers i was seeing cars on the lots with combinations that the build said I could not do.

Like the post above suggested, go to a dealer and walk through building one on their system.

 

[Deadman]

Todays leather is all fake anyway. Its purposely made that way so its more durable.

 

[duneslider]

I had a 2018 max XLT with HD tow and the bench. Haven't looked at ordering a 2024 but would sort of be surprised if that wasn't still something you could get.

 

[Calman2k]

Thanks guys. I drive a '16 and it's getting to that point where it's not clear if it's better to get rid of it while it's still worth something or wait till it pukes and isn't worth anything. So I'm exploring my options.

 

[sjwhiteley]

I shouldn’t worry about having the ‘leather’. It’s very durable. You can get an XLT with HD tow, and ‘bench’ second row (it’s actually 3 seats, but is effectively a bench seat). This is based on the 2024 build on Ford web site.

Now, being able to get one in that configuration on the lot is a different matter.

 

[chuck s]

Time to shop dealers.

It can be difficult to find what you want "on the lot" as dealers order what in their opinion sells best -- it's their business model. Been 6 years now since I bought this Expedition and I had a difficult time and long search to get one with the "bench" 2d row seat. Not only does this allow 3 passengers back there but when the set cover in in place my Dachshunds don't keep falling on the floor in the big gap. This cover hooks between all 4 headrests so they are pretty secure.

My daughter's Brand X quasi-SUV has the "captains" chairs in the second row which are very convenient for strapping in her two pre-school children in their car seats (or so she says . )

-- Chuck

 

[Left Coast Geek]

When we were shopping, we saw a listing for XL (government model) that had cloth bench (3-3-2) seats and HD tow. I think it was a 2020. VERY stripped of options. Shifter was on the steering column! It also had steel 17" wheels.

We ended up with a 2019 Limited Stealth, which has black leather, HD Tow, 7 seat (2-3-2). It came with 22" wheels (ugh, i swapped to 18's). Only feature I really don't much care for is the panoramic roof.

 

[Hellwig]

Hi all, I'm looking at getting a new expedition max and I'm wondering if i am seeing things right. Is it true you can't get the HD tow without leather seats and 2nd row captain's chairs?
I would like HD tow, but need the middle seat (to carry more people) and I still have car seats, which just murders leather seats.
Is Ford really going to make me choose a competitor because of their limited options?

It depends on your trim, I guess? At least what you said doesn't apply to 2024 XLT order. You sure can get 2nd row bench with HD tow pkg.

 

[Calidad]

Hi all, I'm looking at getting a new expedition max and I'm wondering if i am seeing things right. Is it true you can't get the HD tow without leather seats and 2nd row captain's chairs?
I would like HD tow, but need the middle seat (to carry more people) and I still have car seats, which just murders leather seats.
Is Ford really going to make me choose a competitor because of their limited options?

My 19 is HD fully kitted every option Platinum 2nd row bench seat. Was cheaper than the marginally optioned limited non HD given the $85,000 msrp on the Platinums chased buyers to lower trims. Paid $72,000 after 10k dealer cut and Ford cash deal. The limited I found 150miles away was $78,000 no negotiation

 

[Calidad]

Time to shop dealers.

It can be difficult to find what you want "on the lot" as dealers order what in their opinion sells best -- it's their business model. Been 6 years now since I bought this Expedition and I had a difficult time and long search to get one with the "bench" 2d row seat. Not only does this allow 3 passengers back there but when the set cover in in place my Dachshunds don't keep falling on the floor in the big gap. This cover hooks between all 4 headrests so they are pretty secure.

My daughter's Brand X quasi-SUV has the "captains" chairs in the second row which are very convenient for strapping in her two pre-school children in their car seats (or so she says . )

-- Chuck

I don’t get the SUV 2nd row captains chairs thing. Buy a mini van! Couple of things the utility aspect of a SUV is pretty much ruined when you go captains chairs. You go to a 4 seat only vehicle when carrying gear, gear ends up in passenger space between the seats.

The best option is a bench that does a center flip down for the occasional need for easier rear 3rd row access with 5+ passengers little to no gear in the vehicle.

As for small children in car seats thats a very short time period and I rarely see moms with properly secured car seats who also properly take the time to check and secure said kids in the seats. Captains chairs especially in a suv with tight spaces around them on the floor and gear moving from trunk space to seating space just adds to the mess and probability of buckles getting popped loose. Marketing BS definitely drove the captains chair thing in SUVs.

 

[lobsenza]

Time to shop dealers.

It can be difficult to find what you want "on the lot" as dealers order what in their opinion sells best -- it's their business model. Been 6 years now since I bought this Expedition and I had a difficult time and long search to get one with the "bench" 2d row seat. Not only does this allow 3 passengers back there but when the set cover in in place my Dachshunds don't keep falling on the floor in the big gap. This cover hooks between all 4 headrests so they are pretty secure.

My daughter's Brand X quasi-SUV has the "captains" chairs in the second row which are very convenient for strapping in her two pre-school children in their car seats (or so she says . )

-- Chuck

Special order what you want. It will probably be cheaper than buying off of the lot.

 

[jjscsix]

I don’t get the SUV 2nd row captains chairs thing. Buy a mini van! Couple of things the utility aspect of a SUV is pretty much ruined when you go captains chairs. You go to a 4 seat only vehicle when carrying gear, gear ends up in passenger space between the seats.

The best option is a bench that does a center flip down for the occasional need for easier rear 3rd row access with 5+ passengers little to no gear in the vehicle.

As for small children in car seats thats a very short time period and I rarely see moms with properly secured car seats who also properly take the time to check and secure said kids in the seats. Captains chairs especially in a suv with tight spaces around them on the floor and gear moving from trunk space to seating space just adds to the mess and probability of buckles getting popped loose. Marketing BS definitely drove the captains chair thing in SUVs.

You don’t have to get it, but dealers order what sells for them. I would not buy one without captains chairs. No need to explain why, that’s all I need and I like them. And my dog has more floor space to lay down in.