P013C CODE CHECK ENGINE 2013 5.4L 3V

[JamaicaJoe]

EDIT: Code is P013C

So today, one year and just over 2000 miles of ownership my new to me Expy with 119K miles suddenly flashed a Check Engine lamp while stopped at a light. I pulled over checked oil. Oil is fine, no overheating. It was a bit cold out maybe the 60's here in Florida. I turned around and went back home and got a different car.

I don't have a decent scanner, but have a ScanGuage and pulled up one code , the P013C which Googles to: O2 Sensor Slow Response - Rich to Lean. I think it is Bank 2 Sensor 2 downstream on passengers side?? Does this add up?

I have had no driveability problems at all except at times when idling at a light, a very slight sensation of the engine misfiring and the RPM falling almost imperceptibly, more a seat of the pants feeling that the engine stumbled and shook. I have considered that to be the AC compressor kicking in, though it was so random I could not prove that it was.

I could throw an O2 sensor at it and later find some other thing causing it, so I am throwing it out for the experts.

 

[GlennSullivan]

Pass side downstream sensor is what the code translates to, but it can also be other things besides the 02 sensor itself. I would change that sensor first and not go crazy looking for other things unless you see, feel or hear something else.

 

[JamaicaJoe]

OK adding some info. I went out today and read the ScanGuage 2.

Still have a P013C and also some Freeze Frames. Here they are:

PID03 LOOP IS OPEN
PID04 LOD =52
PID05 WT = 75 deg F
PID0C RPM =1319
PID0D MPH = 42
PID0F IAT = 62 deg F
PID 10 GPH = 0.79, 0.57, 0.72 (this seems to be different every time i look so maybe live?)
PID 12 TPS = 19

I reset the failure codes and the light is out. Loop is Closed.

On my 01 I was able to read misfires in real time with Mode 6 commands provided by ScanGuage tech. However my 2013 apparently needs different commands. I mention this because there seems to be a small bit of subtle engine wobble at idle. Note it is cold, Florida cold right now 60's.

 

[GlennSullivan]

OK adding some info. I went out today and read the ScanGuage 2.

Still have a P013C and also some Freeze Frames. Here they are:

PID03 LOOP IS OPEN
PID04 LOD =52
PID05 WT = 75 deg F
PID0C RPM =1319
PID0D MPH = 42
PID0F IAT = 62 deg F
PID 10 GPH = 0.79, 0.57, 0.72 (this seems to be different every time i look so maybe live?)
PID 12 TPS = 19

I reset the failure codes and the light is out. Loop is Closed.

On my 01 I was able to read misfires in real time with Mode 6 commands provided by ScanGuage tech. However my 2013 apparently needs different commands. I mention this because there seems to be a small bit of subtle engine wobble at idle. Note it is cold, Florida cold right now 60's.

A recent FordTechMakuloco video I watched shows him reading misfires on mode 6 using what I "think" is FORSCAN. Maybe that will work.

Here is the link, start at 4:50

Ford F-150 3.5L Ecoboost Repeat Engine Misfires: Diagnostic Tips and Tricks!

In this video we show you how easy it can be to diagnose a misfire on a modern engine with the right tools.Latest Ford Parts:Ignition Coil (2011-2016)-https:...

www.youtube.com

 

[JamaicaJoe]

Yeah, no doubt I am going to have to get FORSCAN going forward.

 

[JamaicaJoe]

Now I am seeing FORSCAN not available due to recent bank transaction bans to Russia. Is that true?

 

[GlennSullivan]

Now I am seeing FORSCAN not available due to recent bank transaction bans to Russia. Is that true?

Joe
I've seen that info posted elsewhere and confirmed on FORSCAN website.



Try the 2 month free trial link below and see if it works for you. Others say it works fine and provides full functionality for a limited time, you can only do it twice, so be ready to tackle the problem when you license.

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[pitdexion]

Forscan is open source software for a computer. You will need a cable or dongle(bluetooth) to connect to 16 pin data link connector.

FORScan Home

 

[JamaicaJoe]

Forscan is open source software for a computer. You will need a cable or dongle(bluetooth) to connect to 16 pin data link connector.

FORScan Home

Do I need only the standard license? It appears to be free?

 

[JamaicaJoe]

Well this is weird, almost exactly a year later. So I have a lot going on been kicking this down the road.

Sometime back in May I had this P013C code show up again and I reset it.

The past month I have not been driving at all because I had eye surgery around Dec 15. So the car has been sitting, I even put it on a charge.

Today I had to move it so ran down the block and happened to look at my SCANGUAGE II and there was a code P013C once again. No CEL though. So I looked at the PID's and it showed open loop, though the engine temp was in 180's, IAT in 90's (F) and the PID showed 41 MPH. So since I only moved the car to the street, not 41 MPH it must have been when driven weekly just before Dec 15 2025. So whatever this fault is happens every 6 months. Not going to panic. I have another issue, the ABS module which I have obtained NOS and that is going to local shop to program and install. At that time I will probably pay him change that 02 sensor, check for exhaust leaks etc.

 

[JamaicaJoe]

Well it had a bad o2 sensor and I had all 4 of them replaced and it is running great. Replaced the ABS module with NOS part and the light show is gone. This 2013 has only a few issues to fix, the radio display (solder) and some blend door actuators acting up.

 

[GlennSullivan]

Well it had a bad o2 sensor and I had all 4 of them replaced and it is running great. Replaced the ABS module with NOS part and the light show is gone. This 2013 has only a few issues to fix, the radio display (solder) and some blend door actuators acting up.

I ended up changing all 5 of my blend door actuators on my 2011 - 2 failed and did preemptive on the others 3 years ago at 60K miles. Haven't had any trouble since. Also changed the ABS module 4 years ago at 56K miles. Considering the low miles on this truck, it seems like these items fail with age and not use.

 

[17expi]

Just get a real code reader and start there, they are cheap online. No need to go all crazy with the ******** etc.

 

[JamaicaJoe]

Just get a real code reader and start there, they are cheap online. No need to go all crazy with the ******** etc.

I now use FORScan. Still learning the capabilities.