Transmission Fluid

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clintsands1985

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I recently purchased a 2000 Ford Expedition EB with the 5.4 that has 218,000 miles on it. The previous owner did not change the transmission fluid and they bought it with around 125,000 miles on it. My question is should I change the fluid and filter, get a flush, or leave it be?

The engine and transmission run great. The fluid does not smell burnt. I have heard that if the fluid is not changed regularly you are better off leaving the old fluid in there.
 

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I don't mean to jack your thead but I just bought a 00 with the 4.6 engine with 170,000 on it and when it downshifts it downshifts hard though every gear . I was wondering if getting the tranny serviced or adding an additive like Lucas oil would be a good thing
 

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I would flush it and then change my filter . I dont think you will hurt anything as long as you use the specified fluid type only. As for you johnjon AKA hijacker lol, I would try the additive. If that doesnt work, i would get the transmission serviced asap.
 

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The main reason people recommend not changing the fluid has to do with the clutch packs. The concern is that over time the friction material will wear away (this is also what becomes part of the black gunk in the pan). There is some truth to the fact that old fluid could varnish or gunk up the clutches enough to slow the transmissions decent into failure and slipping. The junk makes up for the lost friction material. I believe this a little bit, but if this is completely true it is only slowing the failure.

The fear is that new fluid, with its new clean oil, will erase any gunk that is helping the clutches. Basically you change the fluid, and it a short time the transmission starts slipping to death.

What is never mentioned is that the bad fluid will leave deposits and varnish everywhere and not lubricate as well... It can heat up more, causing faster breakdown of the clutches.

The way around this is a slow approach to changing the fluid. This is what I did to a friends Mazda and Chysler minivan (both over 100k with no changes). Get a oil vacuum/pump... Pull about 2 qts out of the dip stick/fill pipe. Use new spec fluid to fill it back up. Drive about 50 to 100 miles and feel for slippage.. If you don't feel any try it again. If you do this about 3 or 4 times and don't encounter slippage, you are ready to do a drain and fill.

Get a filter, fluid, and gasket and make the change. You will want to use solvent to clean the pan and pan magnet well.

If you are lucky you get to change about 60 to 80% of the fluid and clean the pan without killing the trans. If not, well you know where the transmission is health-wise, and at least you will know it without being stranded somewhere.
 

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Im gonna say to save up for a monster transmission or a standard rebuild and if your going to touch it, just do a pan drop and change the fluid/filter in there. 218,000 is alot of miles to not have changed the fluid, I feel that if its shifting alright and not slipping at all, just check the level and make sure its up to par.
 

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I would also suggest that if your going to use lucas, only do so if the transmission is on its last leg, the stuff is sooo thick that I find it hard to believe that it makes its way through the small passages in the transmission .
 
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