Do they still make a Tahoe hybrid? I'd think that's where things are going next for SUVs. By the way nice profile photo.... bahahaha
2000 EB to 2017 eco boost - hesitant
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Do they still make a Tahoe hybrid? I'd think that's where things are going next for SUVs. By the way nice profile photo.... bahahaha
Big Brian
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funny you mention those...
when I worked for TRW in the hydraulic brake lab we developed something called "slip control boost" it was a way of charging the hybrid batteries through the energy of the vehicle braking.
This system went on the Tahoe hybrid. GM expected to sell 20,000 of those the first year of production.
They sold 2000. Luckily the technology we developed was used on other hybrids in other iterations so the effort was not totally wasted
the pic in my avatar was after a meeting with a deer on the way to my cabin in July. $7500 later its back to looking like new
when I worked for TRW in the hydraulic brake lab we developed something called "slip control boost" it was a way of charging the hybrid batteries through the energy of the vehicle braking.
This system went on the Tahoe hybrid. GM expected to sell 20,000 of those the first year of production.
They sold 2000. Luckily the technology we developed was used on other hybrids in other iterations so the effort was not totally wasted
the pic in my avatar was after a meeting with a deer on the way to my cabin in July. $7500 later its back to looking like new
The 1st Gen Expedition were known, for being long lasting, high mileage vehicles. They were most sold/popular of all years. Ford now only sells a small fraction, by comparison. The only real change, that might make a difference is the engine. It is a 5000lb vehicle and my opinion, a V6 is not going to hold up. If you tow, you will be pushing it at 110%. Timing chain stretch, turbo failure and carbon build up on valves and sludge getting sucked into turbos, are all big dollar repairs. You sound like, you drive yours beyond the warranty. I would wait until next year, when they offer more engines as a option.
http://carsalesbase.com/us-car-sales-data/ford/ford-expedition/
Ford Expedition Sales Figures
2016 - 59.835
2015 - 41.443
2014 - 44.632
2013 - 38.350
2012 - 38.062
2011 - 40.499
2010 - 37.336
2009 - 31.655
2008 - 55.123
2007 - 90.287
2006 - 87.203
2005 - 114.137
2004 - 159.846
2003 - 181.547
2002 - 163.454
2001 - 178.045
2000 - 213.483
1999 - 233.125
1998 - 225.703
1997 - 214.524
1996 - 45.974
Ford Expedition Sales Figures
2016 - 59.835
2015 - 41.443
2014 - 44.632
2013 - 38.350
2012 - 38.062
2011 - 40.499
2010 - 37.336
2009 - 31.655
2008 - 55.123
2007 - 90.287
2006 - 87.203
2005 - 114.137
2004 - 159.846
2003 - 181.547
2002 - 163.454
2001 - 178.045
2000 - 213.483
1999 - 233.125
1998 - 225.703
1997 - 214.524
1996 - 45.974
So one ford mechanic goes on Youtube, and says, so it is gospel?
jeff kushner
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Given what I know about engines in general and turbochargers in particular, I change my oil pretty regularly at 5-6000 miles, regardless of what the oil life indicator reads. The guy who does the labor for me (I take my oil & filter to them to change) tells me each time I visit: "You don't need to come in until your oil life remaining reads 10-15%", "You're wasting money by coming early".
And I tell him each time I visit..."Yes, I know, I just enjoy putting money into your pocket" in other words, just do the work brother. LOL The fact is, right now, I'm 150 miles overdue for a 6,000 mile oil change yet my oil life indicator still reads 48%! Do you know what that means? It means my engine is clean, very clean which means that my TURBO's are going to last and THAT has been my plan all along! Since the turbo's use the same oil as the engine, I believe that it's going to be imperative to keep that shared oil clean since the shafts on the turbos are spinning upwards of 200,000RPM...and yeah, you read that correctly. Just my opinion though...we'll see how it turns out for me in a few more years........as far as the other myths....that's exactly what they are so nothing more need be said because to address fantasies is to lend them credence.
jeff
And I tell him each time I visit..."Yes, I know, I just enjoy putting money into your pocket" in other words, just do the work brother. LOL The fact is, right now, I'm 150 miles overdue for a 6,000 mile oil change yet my oil life indicator still reads 48%! Do you know what that means? It means my engine is clean, very clean which means that my TURBO's are going to last and THAT has been my plan all along! Since the turbo's use the same oil as the engine, I believe that it's going to be imperative to keep that shared oil clean since the shafts on the turbos are spinning upwards of 200,000RPM...and yeah, you read that correctly. Just my opinion though...we'll see how it turns out for me in a few more years........as far as the other myths....that's exactly what they are so nothing more need be said because to address fantasies is to lend them credence.
jeff
The 'blow by" that gets drawn into motors PCV system, has moisture and crap that can leave deposits on turbo fins. Too much build up will unbalance the turbo and kill it. Shutting down a hot engine, before turbo cools is not good. The oil protecting it, stops flowing and burns off. That creates a dry start conditions and will lead to turbo a fail. Just changing oil, before required will not help. Synthetic oil and a "catch can", is the way to go.
OP
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Machete
My Rig. 2000 EB 4x4 5.4L
Uhh...it was 8 Ford mechanics mate, not 1, 8 out of 10 and one of the 10 admitted he didn't know because he was new to Ford. All 8 mechanics cited the same basic reasoning for the 5.0 v8, reliability, ease of maintenance, cost of maintenance, forced induction on small engine.
Who else but a Ford mechanic's word would you take, someone who has a 60 month car payment on an eco boost?
I do not have a high mileage ecoboost vehicle. And like you I have a 1986 BMW with 240K miles, and a 1999 Expy with the same mileage. I gave the Expy to my son also. I also "hold" cars, the reliable ones. We are like twins.
So I will point out that pretty much everybody builds cars that will achieve high mileage now. Hell, even the Koreans build quality, reliable cars. Japanese cars are in my opinion built better than european cars, but they all are capable of lasting a long time. Even GM builds some quality products now! Shocking!!!
My point is that you probably dont have to worry about an ecoboost catastrophe, because modern cars are generally very reliable, especially in the hands of guys like you and me who are capable of proper maintenance.
So I will point out that pretty much everybody builds cars that will achieve high mileage now. Hell, even the Koreans build quality, reliable cars. Japanese cars are in my opinion built better than european cars, but they all are capable of lasting a long time. Even GM builds some quality products now! Shocking!!!
My point is that you probably dont have to worry about an ecoboost catastrophe, because modern cars are generally very reliable, especially in the hands of guys like you and me who are capable of proper maintenance.
