theoldwizard1
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Paint Bubbling, We need EVERYONE to register a complaint! READ FORDS RESPONSE!!!
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mjp2
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You're spot on. I just came back from the local body shop (VERY highly rated, certified by all the manufacturers to do repairs, and they have a separate building specifically for aluminum work so nothing gets contaminated) and before we even got to my truck the estimator said "If you're here for the hood and liftgate, they cannot be fixed."
He went through the whole galvanic corrosion thing, explaining that the panels are contaminated from the factory and that Ford refuses to do anything about it, etc. He said after full stripping and prep, best case scenario is a year before it starts bubbling again. I asked about options and he said the only option is replacement, but that's with another likely-contaminated factory piece even brand new.
I asked about powdercoat or fiberglass as options and he said they'll all bubble because of the powder that's forming underneath.
I was genuinely excited to get the truck looking good again and am now feeling a bit deflated.
At this point I'm not opposed to using white bedliner as a solution. Has anyone come up with anything that actually works?
Incorrect, the TSB extends from 2000-2018 F-150 and Expedition vehicles.
theoldwizard1
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But paint bubbling on aluminum panels is covered since 2016MY.
theoldwizard1
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That does not seem logical to me ! If you remove all paint, primer, trim and other hardware and then properly prepare the bare aluminum surface it should last a lot longer than 1 year !
Muddy Bean
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Thanks for correcting me on “verbiage”. Alloys not grades. Sorry. As for the corrosion thing you’re incorrect, it’s not fixable. The panels have steel contamination in them. You can’t remove it. It’s somehow impregnated into the aluminum. But if you want to waste your money, go for it. But some chemical engineers have already researched this and indeed it’s not easily fixable. In fact I wish someone just made steel replacement hoods and liftgates because that would be the solution. Or clean aluminum replacements. But that won’t happen.
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Drae
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I also have the paint bubbling on my hood and have been searching for a fiberglass or steel replacement. Well I searched a little harder and found this...
They also claim to have aluminum replacements but I will be after the steel ASAP!
They also claim to have aluminum replacements but I will be after the steel ASAP!
Yeah but that only is for the short term corrosion warranty, maybe can get it fixed once. Once that is out you’re SOL.
powerboatr
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he is wrong
I am a certificated corrosion/airframe tech for over 40 years, on aircraft, which are chocked full of all kinds of different metals and non metals, yes non metals can cause corrosion to start.
you can remove any and all cross contamination from the alum. then treat, prime and paint and expect good results.
but
the alum needs to be blasted with glass beads, thoroughly rinsed then treated with an etching material , primed and painted. then any item that is attached to it shall be sealed to prevent the ferrous metal from making direct contact with the alum. this part is often not done correctly or at all by repair shops or techs, as it takes time
we did this on alum, magnesium and other noble metals to ensure long life and no galvanic or dissimilar corrosion
the picture with bubbling i bet the issue started when the steal fastener was put through the alum skin and failure of a seal coating or lack thereof caused the reaction to start.
to note my 2016 expy with 23k miles just got waxed and detailed by me over the last two days...I have zero bubbling and or corrosion on my vehicle.
but i dont take it to the beach or drive in snowy regions.
but it was exposed for three days of high winds and salt water this pas December at corpus Christi bay , it go washed real good when we got home. no issues.
Muddy Bean
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Are any of you corrosion techs really
Researching this issue? There isn’t a fix. Several people have had redos and the fixes failed. It has nothing to do with steel fasteners. It’s well know you can’t use steel fasteners in aluminum. When ford stamped the panels they accidentally introduced steel contamination into the aluminum. No one has been able to successfully repaint these pieces with long term success. Just because your 2016 doesn’t have issues yet doesn’t mean it won’t. My 2015 with 83,000 miles on it doesn’t have issues yet either but I have no doubt they will surface eventually. Not knocking your skills or experience but take someone’s messed up hood and liftgate, Fix it permanently, and you’ll have my respect.
That steel hood for sale online, is that completely legit? That would be an easy and cheap solution.
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Researching this issue? There isn’t a fix. Several people have had redos and the fixes failed. It has nothing to do with steel fasteners. It’s well know you can’t use steel fasteners in aluminum. When ford stamped the panels they accidentally introduced steel contamination into the aluminum. No one has been able to successfully repaint these pieces with long term success. Just because your 2016 doesn’t have issues yet doesn’t mean it won’t. My 2015 with 83,000 miles on it doesn’t have issues yet either but I have no doubt they will surface eventually. Not knocking your skills or experience but take someone’s messed up hood and liftgate, Fix it permanently, and you’ll have my respect.
That steel hood for sale online, is that completely legit? That would be an easy and cheap solution.
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