Just got back from HNC
(Hard Notched Customs)... Super great guys! I spoke with Joel, who I think is the owner, and his second hand man (didn't get his name). Super friendly, helpful, supportive, accommodating, down to earth. Wish I would have known about them sooner. I told them that I went with WAM because no one else offers a bumper for the 2nd gen Expeditions. Maybe once they get mine installed they'll add one to their lineup.
Showed them my bumper and described how it was supposed to be mounted and they agreed that the mounting scheme WAM was proposing wasn't going to provide the strength needed for a true winch bumper. So they are going to come up with a mounting scheme that may end up tying into the existing one. Luckily I didn't cut those brackets completely off. I had started cutting one off this morning but it was taking too long and I wanted to get over to HNC so I left it. Talked about what all I wanted done, talked about powder coating options, they took me back and showed me their operation along with samples of the finish they normally put on their bumpers. Decided to go with the Arizona Beige to match the trim... adds $130 bucks for the powder but I've got a lot tied into this bumper so don't want to start skimping now.
So I have an appointment for April 20th. Will leave the Expedition with them, they'll come up with a mounting scheme and get that welded on, will make some mods to give the bumper a better custom fit where it would tie in with the moulding around the wheel wells. I might have them mount some low pre-runner type of bars... kind of a cool look but adds more money, they will sand and powder coat on Friday, and they will then do the final mounting for me. I couldn't have been happier with the game plan! The only thing that would have been better is if they could have gotten me into their schedule today... unfortunately I need to wait two weeks to get err done.
Here's a picture of the low, second bars that tie into the "A" frame. Not sure there's a way to add that to my bumper without getting in front of the lights. The "A" frame on mine also doesn't lean forward much. We'll see if the budget can even handle it... but I do REALLY like that look.