im not sure of your point in posting such a lengthy reply. seems like you are only trying to disprove me rather than contribute anything useful.
besides the weight of large vehicles such as SUVs and trucks being the most important safety factor on the road, hands down. the cabin space inside the SUV is particularly more safe, because it is much larger. there are various and types of specific accident scenarios where the larger cabin space is beneficial. not all accidentals are head-on, rear end, or side impact collisions you know.
truck beds and small rear cabin space just do not mix, even with the bed being specifically designed to absorb impact rather than just killing the rear passengers instantly. there is still danger of having such comparatively small cabin space compared to the larger one of the SUV.
thanks.
I don’t see where that was a lengthy reply, but okay..
Given that you come across as though your opinion is fact, I believe the forum members deserve to see an explanation or test data that supports it. If you are stating things that are incorrect as fact, then ‘disproving you’ is actually very useful to forum members that may not realize that.
Ultimately, I disagree with your statement, “
Wayyyyyyyyyyy safer in an SUV than in a truck, or any other type of vehicle for that matter. It's simple physics.”
I also disagree with the statement, “besides the weight of large vehicles such as SUVs and trucks being the most important safety factor on the road, hands down”
The Ability to Avoid the Accident altogether is the most important safety factor, and often times cars are better at this as they have better handling dynamics, and are less prone to rollover from evasive maneuvers. Then there are systems that help to avoid accidents like automated braking, and stability control systems that I would also rank higher in the Safety value than weight, particularly if they allow you to avoid the accident all together.
In the end it’s the human behind the wheel that is the most important Safety Factor. Hopefully one that is paying attention to the task at hand, and has better than average driving skills, but I digress..
While I don’t expect to see an explanation that will change my opinion, I believe forum members deserve to understand your opinion is not necessarily fact, and if you can’t back it up with a reasonable explanation or hard facts, well, that just sort of proves the point.
And yes, there are accidents other than head-on, rear end and side impact. Since that covers all four sides, that leaves rollovers. Again, I see no evidence that suggests the Expedition is any safer in a rollover than a Supercrew F150 would be. If you have other Facts that show otherwise, glad to listen.
good luck finding offset collision data on any of the new ford trucks though i must say, the modern f150s seem to have a much sturdier cabin than previous generations
but still, the expeditions are about 1500 lbs heavier than f150
that is a major difference
now would you like me to sit here and detail rudimentary physics for you, on why energy seems to have the habit of taking the path of least resistance and which vehicle is going to provide more resistance?
It’s very easy to find offset crash data for the best-selling vehicle on American roads. As I noted earlier, the crash performance of the ‘Truck’ is well documented. The crash performance of the relatively low volume Expedition is not however..
https://www.iihs.org/ratings/vehicle/Ford/f-150-crew-cab-pickup/2017
As noted by another poster, there is not much difference in the weight of a loaded 4x4 F150 Supercrew (I suspect most families would be buying a 4wd Supercrew in Lariat trim or higher) and an Expedition..
Personally I believe that weight can be an advantage in a collision with a lighter vehicle, but it can also be a HUGE disadvantage in a collision with a stationary object like a tree or bridge abutment. It is also not going to do you any favors in a rollover. But given your mastery of physics, you surely understand this and why..
So yes, by all means, go ahead and detail rudimentary physics for us all. You make it a point that there are all different kinds of collisions, so don’t forget to use physics to explain why weight is an advantage in ALL OF THEM..
P.S. – Given the statement “besides the weight of large vehicles such as SUVs and trucks being the most important safety factor on the road, hands down”, I suppose it is safe to assume that you think that if the F150 in the crash videos above weighed half of what it does, there would be more damage and risk of injury in those collisions?
