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I haven't seen one in person but in the pictures I have been thinking the Wagoneer and the Tahoe look really similar
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They do, but the grand wagoneer is sooo gross looking.I haven't seen one in person but in the pictures I have been thinking the Wagoneer and the Tahoe look really similar
… it just rides like a fricken dump truck. It bucks all over the road on sharp bumps on the interstate because the rear springs are just stupid-stiff. It axle hops both tires off the road on the sharp bumps and NONE of the struts The Black Labels are just this stiff.
It helps to do some research when dropping that kind of coin on a vehicle. Black Labels come all inclusive, including the heavy duty tow package which uses stiffer rear springs for the increased tongue weight. Thus, the stupid harsh ride.
Frankly, stupid move on Lincoln’s part as no one driving a Black Label buys it to tow their 10,000lb boat with it. Black Labels are for ultimate passenger comfort.
I opted for 2022 Reserve, which includes road preview. A system that scans bumps and dips in the road in front and adapts magnetic dampers in real time to react accordingly.
And I made sure to avoid the HD Tow Package.
If you can afford a 10,000lb boat and a Black Label, you can afford to buy a used F-250 to tow it with those 5-6 times a year I figure.
I wouldn’t compare a Navi to a Jeep. Just bad taste.
Sorry but that's horse crap. My black label L rides smooth as silk on most roads. Now I will admit if you have never driven an Escalade or RR or GLS on 21-22" rims you will notice some additional harshness over bad bumps but that just the rims and it's on every platform. In addition to that I have seen hundreds of reviews and NOT ONE SINGLE TIME did they say the Navi ride was stupid harsh., they tend to say the exact opposite...It helps to do some research when dropping that kind of coin on a vehicle. Black Labels come all inclusive, including the heavy duty tow package which uses stiffer rear springs for the increased tongue weight. Thus, the stupid harsh ride.
Frankly, stupid move on Lincoln’s part as no one driving a Black Label buys it to tow their 10,000lb boat with it. Black Labels are for ultimate passenger comfort.
I opted for 2022 Reserve, which includes road preview. A system that scans bumps and dips in the road in front and adapts magnetic dampers in real time to react accordingly.
And I made sure to avoid the HD Tow Package.
If you can afford a 10,000lb boat and a Black Label, you can afford to buy a used F-250 to tow it with those 5-6 times a year I figure.
I wouldn’t compare a Navi to a Jeep. Just bad taste.
IN OPS case, he actually was comparing his bl that he traded to his expy ltd of the same year and said his ride comfort issues weren't in the expy and the lincoln dealer couldn't figure it out. I havent been in the gls or x7, or the escalade with air springs, but all navs I've driven have been better than the new gms with just the mrc and coils and qx80. I will say also, the gcl on air springs rides very well, better than the current nav.Sorry but that's horse crap. My black label L rides smooth as silk on most roads. Now I will admit if you have never driven an Escalade or RR or GLS on 21-22" rims you will notice some additional harshness over bad bumps but that just the rims and it's on every platform. In addition to that I have seen hundreds of reviews and NOT ONE SINGLE TIME did they say the Navi ride was stupid harsh., they tend to say the exact opposite...