Maybe cam phasers? Timing chain?

[Gruz7]

So today been driving the truck like normal all day and have had nothing out of ordinary happen (everything seemed fine) and I got off and exit and stopped at the red light (truck in drive) and while waiting there holding the brake the truck began to shake vigorously and make a loud knocking noise (like a diesel).
As soon as I drove off it went away and then came back when I stopped at a stop sign 30 seconds later.
When I put it into park it went away and eventually I was able to get it to happen again in drive but still it goes away when driving or in park.
Could this be the phasers?
I'll try to attach a video of what it sounds like...
Ps the tranny/exhaust/entire motor shake on their whenever I hear the noise.

Edit: I should also add that the video is taken with the truck in DRIVE with the emergency brake on
https://vimeo.com/173072067


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[Gruz7]

Update: after a little highway driving again I stopped at a red light and had the loud diesel sounds major shaking and this time I was waiting a bit longer and while in DRIVE the motor shut off....
I shifted it to park and started the engine again and was able to continue driving fine but I still getting the noise at stops


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[Habbibie]

I don't know man my phaser you can hear all the time, parked or in drive, while driving too I can sometimes hear the ticking but it never shakes. The shaking that's an indication that something with either the ignition or fuel delivery has gone wrong. Did the engine shake it more like sputter and drop in RPMs?

 

[Gruz7]

I don't know man my phaser you can hear all the time, parked or in drive, while driving too I can sometimes hear the ticking but it never shakes. The shaking that's an indication that something with either the ignition or fuel delivery has gone wrong. Did the engine shake it more like sputter and drop in RPMs?

Didn't really drop in RPMs so just knocking like that while in drive and stopped and it went away in park... My mechanic buddy owns a shop where they're done several cam phasers on the 5.4s and he says if I'm lucky it could be the two VCT solenoids and I should start there by changing the two of them and see if that solves my issue... And again I don't really hear any knocking while driving down the road which is why I'm thinking it could possibly not be the cam phasers


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[xfiles67]

Our '03 5.4L has some timing chain noise, or at least that's what I think it is, and it sounds nothing like that.

 

[Gruz7]

Our '03 5.4L has some timing chain noise, or at least that's what I think it is, and it sounds nothing like that.

After a lot of research I am leaning toward the VCT solenoids


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[docraymund]

That is quite loud! Dont use the truck. Have it serviced first. Most likely you have a worn timing chain.

 

[Gruz7]

That is quite loud! Dont use the truck. Have it serviced first. Most likely you have a worn timing chain.

Easier said than done... Hear they usually run people well over $1000 just in labor


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[xfiles67]

Easier said than done... Hear they usually run people well over $1000 just in labor


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A 4 figure repair bill seems to be the norm at any shop. Ford really didn't make it easy to do.

 

[Gruz7]

A 4 figure repair bill seems to be the norm at any shop. Ford really didn't make it easy to do.

I just about hate ford right now... More I read in other forums though the more I think there is a slight chance my problem could be as simple as bad VCT solenoids


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[xfiles67]

I just about hate ford right now... More I read in other forums though the more I think there is a slight chance my problem could be as simple as bad VCT solenoids


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDv6hA9facc

 

[Gruz7]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDv6hA9facc

Nice video, love that guy he's helped me do almost everything on the ford.... Really sounds like my issue with the way he explains it


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[xfiles67]

Time to get to work!

 

[Gruz7]

Time to get to work!

You said it! Looks like Monday will be the inspection diagnosis day and in the meantime will prolly drive one of my fathers cars and get to working on it this week... Hopefully it ain't too bad I really want to keep the Expy


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[Habbibie]

What is VCT short for?

 

[Gruz7]

What is VCT short for?

I believe variable camshaft timing?


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[Maloburro]

Damn Gruz. It almost reminds me of an exhaust leak. I'm sorry to hear of your trouble. If you do the VCT which sounds like a common problem, and you have to pull again it will be easier. I hope you figure it out soon.

 

[xfiles67]

There are also some exhaust leaks, at the manifold on the passenger side, that can sound like crazy engine noise.

Might double check that too.

The same guy in the video I linked to above does a manifold job and describes the exhaust leak as compared to engine noises.

 

[Gruz7]

There are also some exhaust leaks, at the manifold on the passenger side, that can sound like crazy engine noise.

Might double check that too.

The same guy in the video I linked to above does a manifold job and describes the exhaust leak as compared to engine noises.

Yeah think wanna do some Gibson headers anyways so I can get these manifolds out


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[Gruz7]

Today I took the expy down to have my uncle take a look at it he wants to change the oil and use some additive and also check if there is some metal in the oil...

Today driving home taking a freeway exit I gave it light throttle and heard a bit of slapping or maybe slight knocking and I heard it again on my side street at low speeds and was about to get the truck to make the constant knocking "phaser-like" noise again but this time while driving... It went away when I turned the truck around (reverse then drive again) and didn't come back, truck is sitting at my house now and I won't drive until Wednesday when I change the filter and oil and check for metal


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