Expedition Ecoboost Tune

[AllBoostNoEco]

I know it was addressed to Loki, but throwing my two cents in here, my 5-Star tune’s transmission tuning is what leaves me wanting the custom tuning more than anything. Even under WOT, it shifts like it is trying to do anything and everything it can to avoid letting you feel it. If the engine didn’t play dead during shifts, you’d have to watch the tach to notice it actually did shift. It’s that smooth.

My Coyote-powered F-150 would spin going into second and chirp third on 35” LT mud tires. Same transmission, slightly more HP, far less torque, but there’s no reason for the PCM to pull ALL the power out of the engine like it does.

 

[jdeshong]

I received my tune files and loaded the 93 performance tune. Very happy with it so far, I noticed right away that the shifts are much quicker/firmer but still smooth the way it should have been from the factory. You can definitely feel the extra power as well, part throttle boost kicks in fast and feels close to WOT stock. I did a couple standing WOT runs with traction control off and the tires don't light up in smoke but they screech and beg for mercy about halfway through first. I would love to take this to a track one day just to see what 1/4 time would be. Feels like maybe a high 13 low 14.

 

[AllBoostNoEco]

Glad you like it. A tune on these trucks is such a huge improvement versus an NA vehicle.
The bang for the buck is amazing.

 

[jdeshong]

I did a quick video of a 0-60 run tonight in case anyone wants to see what a tune will do. Link below...

 

[ExpeditionAndy]

I did a quick video of a 0-60 run tonight in case anyone wants to see what a tune will do. Link below...

What version of the 2015 Expedition do you have. I have the instrument cluster with the speedometer in the center and the two LCD screens on each side of it.

 

[jdeshong]

What version of the 2015 Expedition do you have. I have the instrument cluster with the speedometer in the center and the two LCD screens on each side of it.

XLT 2wd


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[07xln]

That thing was moving out. Nice

 

[jeff kushner]

I like that everyone toss in their 2 cents.....because it helps to show that varied views.

I'm a HP guy, like many of us. I have always loved acceleration over top speed. I design my own engine porting and build two stroke high performance engines for fun. They are deadly fast and I've had to restrict who I build for accordingly after having one client Ghost-White after returning from his "maiden ride"...he had lied, he was not ready for a fully built two stroke engine and sold the bike two weeks later.....but here's a little food for thought.

Anyone entertaining the idea of a "tune"....take a look at the semi-manual mode for shifting your truck.....get familiar with the little button that falls to your thumb as you grip the shifter....learn how to triple-click it instantly....then, from 65MPH, drop to 3rd and open the throttle body all the way............the sheer acceleration is phenomenal for a 6000 pound truck.....learning how to maximize what you already own is typically the difference in a race. We competed at high levels with much less-than what the factory guys rode...because we knew how to maximize every foot of the tracks, keeping in the powerband, and learning very late trail braking back on skinny tires when NO ONE trail braked.......also I can't help but recall that LMC reported serious lower-end issues at the 420HP mark or higher....kind of makes me think that as much as I'd love an "extra" 20-50BHP.....I also like that safety factor of "only" producing the stock 3.5's 365HP for my truck.

Just a little food for thought guys....

jeff

 

[ExpeditionAndy]

I like that everyone toss in their 2 cents.....because it helps to show that varied views.

I'm a HP guy, like many of us. I have always loved acceleration over top speed. I design my own engine porting and build two stroke high performance engines for fun. They are deadly fast and I've had to restrict who I build for accordingly after having one client Ghost-White after returning from his "maiden ride"...he had lied, he was not ready for a fully built two stroke engine and sold the bike two weeks later.....but here's a little food for thought.

Anyone entertaining the idea of a "tune"....take a look at the semi-manual mode for shifting your truck.....get familiar with the little button that falls to your thumb as you grip the shifter....learn how to triple-click it instantly....then, from 65MPH, drop to 3rd and open the throttle body all the way............the sheer acceleration is phenomenal for a 6000 pound truck.....learning how to maximize what you already own is typically the difference in a race. We competed at high levels with much less-than what the factory guys rode...because we knew how to maximize every foot of the tracks, keeping in the powerband, and learning very late trail braking back on skinny tires when NO ONE trail braked.......also I can't help but recall that LMC reported serious lower-end issues at the 420HP mark or higher....kind of makes me think that as much as I'd love an "extra" 20-50BHP.....I also like that safety factor of "only" producing the stock 3.5's 365HP for my truck.

Just a little food for thought guys....

jeff

Jeff are you feeling better now? Are you sleeping?

 

[Muddy Bean]

Explain the triple click??


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[jdeshong]

Explain the triple click??


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He was talking about manually downshifting from 6th to 3rd which is 3 clicks.

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[ExpeditionAndy]

Explain the triple click??


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I think he means clicking the downshift button on the side of the shifter 3 times very fast to force a downshift from 6th to 3rd.

 

[07xln]

Funny thing is all you have to do is stomp on the gas in 6th and it’ll go to 3rd automatically.

 

[jeff kushner]

Jeff are you feeling better now? Are you sleeping?

Naw, seems like I get 3-4 hrs per night, not the solid * I used to get. I do sleep better with my sweetheart but we always seem to get to sleep very late and wake early....VEG..

Thanks for asking Andy....

The advantage of selected shifting is that it is in some way, eliminating time.....if it's via how it routes the shifting info or whatever, there definitely is a solid reduction in any delay. Especially if you nail the TB at the same time as Select shifting.....it's like they each have a implementation sequence that you can have both run concurrently instead of consecutively....there in would lie the advantage.....but this is only supposition on my part since I do not know the actual Solution employed.


jeff

 

[07xln]

Just got word my tuner has shipped. Super excited and ready to unleash the beast. From the videos ive watched and articles Ive read the gains being made are pretty awesome and well within a safe range. I went with the SCT X4 tuner from 5 Star. Tunes I chose are 93 Performance, 93 Performance/Tow and 89 Performance/Tow. Ive run 87 only once in a year and a half of ownership and wont ever do it again unless I absolutely have to. Tuned or not the truck flat out performs better with 93 in it. So with that said an 87 tune wasn't even considered. I'll probably run 93 perf the bulk of the time then switch to the perf/tow when its time to hitch up the toy hauler.

I took the wifes MDX today to get the tires rotated and left having purchased 4 new Michelin Defender LTX M/S tires for the Expedition. I'll be getting them installed tomorrow. Should be a nice upgrade from the OEM p rated Hankooks. I hate to get rid of a tire with only 13K miles on them but with the towing I do it just makes since to go ahead and put a stouter tire on it

 

[WakeZone]

A performance tune producing +80rwhp +80ft‐lbs sounds like a no-brainer. One question: the tow mode down shift feature is awesome and I wouldn't want to lose it; anybody notice any negative effects on the tow mode e-brake function?

 

[LokiWolf]

A performance tune producing +80rwhp +80ft‐lbs sounds like a no-brainer. One question: the tow mode down shift feature is awesome and I wouldn't want to lose it; anybody notice any negative effects on the tow mode e-brake function?

E-Brake stands for electronic brake and is typically used in the current auto world to describe Electronically activated Emergency brakes. Now that has been clarified.

All of the tuning options I have used so far on the Expy, have not had any negative effect on the Trans braking when towing. One of my tunes actually made it more aggressive.

Also, since this thread was last updated, there are many options on the market for tuning.

HyperTech
LMS
Unleashed
5-Star
ZFG Racing
BCB

All of the above plus a few more out there can tune the 15-17 Expy. Look around and read some reviews. I highly recommend going with a Tuner that uses an HPTuner MPVI2 or NGauge. With additional credits both can be used to tune additional vehicles. They both come with software for full logging on a laptop, which is very useful if you want to tweak the tune.

@16plati is using 5Star, and is very happy. I have heard mixed reviews personally, but never tried them.

ZFG is my current tuner, but getting tunes from BCB(Brew City Boost) soon. Just to try them out(heard really good stuff).


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[16plati]

A performance tune producing +80rwhp +80ft‐lbs sounds like a no-brainer. One question: the tow mode down shift feature is awesome and I wouldn't want to lose it; anybody notice any negative effects on the tow mode e-brake function?

They don’t recommend using a straight performance tune while towing. Gearing and shift strategies too aggressive. You would need to purchase a performance tow tune and they can make it shift however you want. Plenty of 5 star f150s out there towing the shit outta stuff. And 5 star, unlike livernois, actually calibrates there tunes with trucks and fully loaded trailers to make the beat ECU map for each application. That’s why 5 star is the preferred vendor over Livernois (which by the way is wayyyyu too expensive, and 5 star tunes make more power)

The key though is to not just take the first tune they send you and say “oh it’s good”. I’ve had 13 revisions done to mine and I guarantee you I make over 400rwhp and rwtq with how great they have it dialed in. 23psi of boost, -0.96 OAR and 0.44 degrees ok knock at WOT. 2016 el platinum 3” lift on 35s and 3.73s runs a 0-60 in 5.7 secs

 

[16plati]

E-Brake stands for electronic brake and is typically used in the current auto world to describe Electronically activated Emergency brakes. Now that has been clarified.

All of the tuning options I have used so far on the Expy, have not had any negative effect on the Trans braking when towing. One of my tunes actually made it more aggressive.

Also, since this thread was last updated, there are many options on the market for tuning.

HyperTech
LMS
Unleashed
5-Star
ZFG Racing
BCB

All of the above plus a few more out there can tune the 15-17 Expy. Look around and read some reviews. I highly recommend going with a Tuner that uses an HPTuner MPVI2 or NGauge. With additional credits both can be used to tune additional vehicles. They both come with software for full logging on a laptop, which is very useful if you want to tweak the tune.

@16plati is using 5Star, and is very happy. I have heard mixed reviews personally, but never tried them.

ZFG is my current tuner, but getting tunes from BCB(Brew City Boost) soon. Just to try them out(heard really good stuff).


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BCB has blown several f150 driveshafts just fyi

 

[LokiWolf]

BCB has blown several f150 driveshafts just fyi

And 5 Star has blown some Motors, and X has Blown some Trans....and so forth. Pay to play!

Our Drive shafts are WAY different than anything in the F-150.


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