My 2010 sounds like an actual diesel at idle

[1955moose]

That's what I mean. Back a few years I could get a great discount just mentioning a shop I worked at, or even saying i had my own shop. These days when they should be competing for everyone's business by giving us a break, instead they give nothing! Even shops I know, their price had no break. Sometimes they were above off the street retail. All the independent stores are gone or going, and just the huge mega companies are left. Sad that we all order online, wait 2-8 days, all because rents/ mortgages/ manufacturing has gotten so out of control. Miss the old days, took them for granted back then! Oh well, at least our vehicles are cooler to drive now, just wish I could or wanted to work on it now!

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[Stinky_1]

I know what you mean.

I still go to the local mom and pop parts shop. Their prices are better than everyone else in town, and they do give me a discount for being on a local dad's Facebook group. So we get the same price as the dealer discounts.

Nobody else in town touches their prices, and they can get anything you want quick because the warehouse is only a couple hours away. Usually they have what u need in stock already.

But, they still can't compete with online prices.

 

[Stinky_1]

Update on the engine,

Got the timing chain cover off to find that both chain guides are missing

Found pieces in parts of the oil pump

I didn't have all the peices there so I had to pull the oil pan off. Found the rest of it stuck in the oil pan, other parts stuck in the pickup tube which caused weak oil pressure.

Once complete I will have all new chains, guides, tensioners, oil pump, seals, phaser lockout, and cleaned pickup tube.

Should never have to go back into here again after that

 

[gixer2000]

Update on the engine,

Got the timing chain cover off to find that both chain guides are missing

Found pieces in parts of the oil pump

I didn't have all the peices there so I had to pull the oil pan off. Found the rest of it stuck in the oil pan, other parts stuck in the pickup tube which caused weak oil pressure.

Once complete I will have all new chains, guides, tensioners, oil pump, seals, phaser lockout, and cleaned pickup tube.

Should never have to go back into here again after that View attachment 24963 View attachment 24964 View attachment 24965 View attachment 24966

I hope you got a new oil pump too. The oil pump is right there so I highly recommend you do that also

 

[Stinky_1]

I hope you got a new oil pump too. The oil pump is right there so I highly recommend you do that also

Absolutely. I'm putting all new everything in there.

Gonna skip the water pump since I can do it anytime pretty easily without touching all this timing stuff.

 

[gixer2000]

Absolutely. I'm putting all new everything in there.

Gonna skip the water pump since I can do it anytime pretty easily without touching all this timing stuff.

Awesome! What did all the parts cost? I'm looking to do mine this summer as its starting to make a little noise on cold start up but quiet otherwise.

 

[Stinky_1]

Awesome! What did all the parts cost? I'm looking to do mine this summer as its starting to make a little noise on cold start up but quiet otherwise.

I would have to check, but I think it's somewhere around $500.

I didn't buy genuine Ford parts.

 

[deweysmith]

Phaser lockouts :’(

 

[Stinky_1]

Great news!

All the parts arrived today.

Bad news is I won't have enough time to put it all back together today.

My plan this evening is to get the new parts installed. Bar the engine over to be sure I didn't screw up the timing

Then tomorrow after work see how quickly I can put it all back together again.

 

[Stinky_1]

Update:

Got all the new parts on today.

Also finally got the oil pan off and got to see the surprises in there

That looks like it's the rest of the missing timing guides.

Also found some pieces of junk in the driver side VCT solenoid

Glad I decided to pull the oil pan. The filter screen was plugged solid. Which explains the low pressure and chattering phasers

Its been a long road but hopefully it's almost done

 

[gixer2000]

Update:

Got all the new parts on today.

Also finally got the oil pan off and got to see the surprises in there

That looks like it's the rest of the missing timing guides.

Also found some pieces of junk in the driver side VCT solenoid

Glad I decided to pull the oil pan. The filter screen was plugged solid. Which explains the low pressure and chattering phasers

Its been a long road but hopefully it's almost done View attachment 24993 View attachment 24992

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Wow That's so much work and not looking forward to doing mine

 

[JExpedition07]

Wow That's so much work and not looking forward to doing mine

If it ain’t broke don’t fix it!

 

[gixer2000]

If it ain’t broke don’t fix it!

Normally I agree but I would much rather be ahead of this rather than waiting for the headaches to start

 

[Stinky_1]

Ours is a 2010, there is tons of room to do everything.

The hardest part has been getting the oil pan off. I wasn't able to drop the front diff as far as it needed to go. So it took a lot of pulling pushing and smashing to get it out, and then back in again.

Now I'm on the home stretch. Just buttoning it all up.

To get to this stage has taken about 9 hours

I think I have about 3 hours left

 

[Stinky_1]

Normally I agree but I would much rather be ahead of this rather than waiting for the headaches to start

If you do it before the guides break you could save an easy 3 hours of fighting with the oil pan

 

[gixer2000]

If you do it before the guides break you could save an easy 3 hours of fighting with the oil pan

Honestly either Way I'm pulling the pan. If I'm going in there I'm going to make sure theres nothing in there before it goes back together. I appreciate the heads up though

 

[Stinky_1]

Great news, the truck is all back together and running great!

If anyone else finds this thread and wants an idea what they are up for here is some details

It took me 2 full days worth of time to do this job

I have average to above average mechanical skill

I have above average stubbornness and willingness to take risks

I did not have all the tools I needed for the job and had to buy some to get it done

I spent a lot of time fighting the oil pan (about 3 hours all in just for that)

Everything else was pretty straight forward.

I found the trick for locking the cams with vice grips. I did that instead of removing the rockers like in the videos online. I found this way easier and allowed me to adjust cam position when doing timing easily


Now I have to track down an annoying exhaust leak.

Super glad to have it all fixed!

 

[jcmeyer5]

Okay, so I have to ressurect this thread in hopes that @Stinky_1 sees this. I have a 2008, which is by most accounts identical under the hood to the 2010. I went to take the driver valve cover off this weekend, but it wouldnt come off. I had the harness out of the way, the bolts undone, the coils out. The valve cover was loose from the engine, but wouldnt come out. Nothing I saw was keeping it in there, but at the same time I couldnt get it off. I ended up putting everything back together to try again another day.

I know its an impossible question, but what did I do wrong? Is there some magic mojo to getting the valve cover off?

 

[pitdexion]

Remove oil dipstick tube bolt and turn the tube or pull it out. May be easier said than done. GL

 

[Stinky_1]

Remove oil dipstick tube bolt and turn the tube or pull it out. May be easier said than done. GL

Sorry for not jumping on here sooner!

I ended up putting all the videos together in an easier to follow way on my youtube channel. You can see it here


Hope you figure out how to get that cover off. Sounds like you missed the dipstick bolt like PitDexion said.