Changing out all coolant and heater hoses...

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Has anyone done or had this job done? If done at a shop, what should I expect to pay?

This includes all the radiator coolant and heater including the rear hose that carries coolant for the rear climate control feature.

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Changing the hoses is easy. You'll need a pair of hose pliers ideally for the spring type clamps, but a sturdy pair of pliers should work. After install, you'll want to either jack front end, or park on a grade to help get air out of expansion coolant tank. If you want to do job 100 percent, see if you can replace front heater core in/out hoses too. Ideally if original, all coolant hoses under hood should be changed. But due to coil's getting wet, I'd leave those be for now.

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Changing the hoses is easy. You'll need a pair of hose pliers ideally for the spring type clamps, but a sturdy pair of pliers should work. After install, you'll want to either jack front end, or park on a grade to help get air out of expansion coolant tank. If you want to do job 100 percent, see if you can replace front heater core in/out hoses too. Ideally if original, all coolant hoses under hood should be changed. But due to coil's getting wet, I'd leave those be for now.

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Just got quote $1000.00 including new coolant, all front and rear hoses radiator and heater
 

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The heater hoses are a real dog to change and all are "quick connects" that aren't quick to disconnect. The Ford ones aren't cheap either.

The high quote considers the good chance of messing up the heater core or radiator while trying to wrench those old brittle bast#rds off.

You really wanna go and poke this sleepin' giant in January?
 

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You can remove clamps, use a razor blade to slit old hoses. If you have $1,000 to throw at shop, go for it. If you want to make the job easier replace spring clamps with regular screw type. Double clamp them if you want a real tight fit on upper and lower hoses.

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The reason for tidying up the ole gal is that I am towing my boat to Florida from Chicago early summer and I want to get everything done now so I can put miles on after the services are performed rather than getting everything done right before and hitting the road only to find out something went wrong. Ask me how I know this!

To Do List:

Already done:
All differential fluids and transfer case changed
axle seals replaced
Cat-back exhaust
Coolant ( I know)
power steering fluid flushed
brake fluid flushed

Planned:
Motor and tranny mounts
All coolant hoses, radiator and heater
Add on tranny cooler w new lines

What am I forgetting? Or is recommended?

P.S. the boat, trailer, rigged out max 3200lbs.
 

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Most important, tranny service fluid and filter. If yours is 2002 or older, you can cheat like I did, and drain pan, and torque converter through little drain bolt. Can't do that on 03 on up, as no drain bolts. Gotta pull pan, and can't drain converter at all. What year is the Expedition? What motor/trans?

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Most important, tranny service fluid and filter. If yours is 2002 or older, you can cheat like I did, and drain pan, and torque converter through little drain bolt. Can't do that on 03 on up, as no drain bolts. Gotta pull pan, and can't drain converter at all. What year is the Expedition? What motor

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Ok.

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The reason for tidying up the ole gal is that I am towing my boat to Florida from Chicago early summer and I want to get everything done now so I can put miles on after the services are performed rather than getting everything done right before and hitting the road only to find out something went wrong. Ask me how I know this!

To Do List:

Already done:
All differential fluids and transfer case changed
axle seals replaced
Cat-back exhaust
Coolant ( I know)
power steering fluid flushed
brake fluid flushed

Planned:
Motor and tranny mounts
All coolant hoses, radiator and heater
Add on tranny cooler w new lines

What am I forgetting? Or is recommended?

P.S. the boat, trailer, rigged out max 3200lbs.


ok, why the Trans cooler? What gears does Expy have? If it has 3.73 it already has the tow package and larger trans cooler. How big is the boat you are towing, don't forget they are very aerodynamic, vs say a camper, alot easier to tow.

I would agree why change those hoses? I agree that you are poking the bear, and wouldn't do them. I can understand doing a new thermostat and coolant bit not the hoses

Don't understand the engine and Tranny mounts either?
 

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I just read, the boat/trailer etc weigh 3200 pounds? It won't even know its there... I believe you are going WAY overboard to tow 3200 pounds. Of course towing something could happen and you break down, but it could also happen when you aren't towing too.
 
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ok, why the Trans cooler? What gears does Expy have? If it has 3.73 it already has the tow package and larger trans cooler. How big is the boat you are towing, don't forget they are very aerodynamic, vs say a camper, alot easier to tow.

I would agree why change those hoses? I agree that you are poking the bear, and wouldn't do them. I can understand doing a new thermostat and coolant bit not the hoses

Don't understand the engine and Tranny mounts either?

I’ve never replaced any of those hoses, none. They’re original.

With regard to ‘why tranny cooler’ this is also a ‘rather have it and not need it than...”.

My boat rig is approximately 3200-3500lbs fully gassed and loaded. I’ve made this drive from Chicago to Florida many many times. It’s 50% of the total mileage on my truck (185,***). It is a long grueling run.

There’s a section of this run through Tennessee on I-24 that snakes through steep mountains and I don’t want to heat up the tranny.

I drive straight through breaking only for gas and brief naps if I get sleepy driving at night. Otherwise it’s a constant run for engine and tranny.

Same for engine/tranny mounts. They are original. I’ve always changed them on my daily driver cars but neglected replacing on my truck. I always noticed smoother my vehicles were w fresh mounts besides it’s my understanding that keeping engine tranny alignment helps extend life of tranny and drive line.

Shoot, that just reminded me to check u joints etc!
 
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Have you ever dealt with those heater hose quick-disconnects? Stick your head under there an look real good. Then feel the hoses and decide if you want to mess with them. The hoses on my 2000 were original with 235,000 miles and seemed to be like new when replaced them with the heater core.

I had to replace them because there was no way they were coming off.
 
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Have you ever dealt with those heater hose quick-disconnects? Stick your head under there an look real good. Then feel the hoses and decide if you want to mess with them. The hoses on my 2000 were original with 235,000 miles and seemed to be like new when replaced them with the heater core.

I had to replace them because there was no way they were coming off.

I’ve not taken a look but I expect to replace all the fittings and clamps to coolant and tranny lines. Where I live they salt the roads so I expect replacing all of it. I know my dealer has flameless torches and I have a relationship there. They know if they break it they replace/fix it.
This is why I’m willing to pay more at dealer.
 
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