PPE aftermarket transmission oil pan

[ROBERT BONNER]

Has anyone installed a PPE brand "Heavy-Duty Cast Aluminum" aftermarket transmission oil pan with plug? I'm considering the upgrade and wonder if anyone has already made the upgrade and if you've experienced any installation issues or leaking issues after installation.

 

[5280tunage]

I haven't but I'm pretty interested. I can't stand the plastic stuff. Given how sensitive these are to temps, I'm not sure how an engineer thought plastic will transfer heat well. I know, I know, folks like me with the HD tow have the additional cooler, but still, a lot of ambient air blows by the tranny cover while driving, can definitely help cool the fluids.

Trouble is, if I were to buy one, I probably wouldn't do it till I needed the tranny flushed and filled, actually, I need to see what mileage interval I'm supposed to do that. Group buy, J/K, those never go over well these days.

 

[Rednecked]

I haven't but I'm pretty interested. I can't stand the plastic stuff. Given how sensitive these are to temps, I'm not sure how an engineer thought plastic will transfer heat well. I know, I know, folks like me with the HD tow have the additional cooler, but still, a lot of ambient air blows by the tranny cover while driving, can definitely help cool the fluids.

Trouble is, if I were to buy one, I probably wouldn't do it till I needed the tranny flushed and filled, actually, I need to see what mileage interval I'm supposed to do that. Group buy, J/K, those never go over well these days.

Count me in! Lol

 

[GixxerJasen]

If you are supposed to throw away and replace the $80 plastic pan I'd rather replace it with one of these, I'm interested as well.

 

[Squark]

I just had a transmission TSB fixed that required pulling the pan. I found a puddle of transmission fluid on the garage floor the morning after I got it back. Long story short, the dealer is replacing the pan because it's leaking around the back of it. They weren't sure if it was the gasket or pan, but they're not taking any chances and are replacing both. I guess a bean counter decided plastic was cheaper than metal, but what a pain.

 

[LazSlate]

I just had a transmission TSB fixed that required pulling the pan. I found a puddle of transmission fluid on the garage floor the morning after I got it back. Long story short, the dealer is replacing the pan because it's leaking around the back of it. They weren't sure if it was the gasket or pan, but they're not taking any chances and are replacing both. I guess a bean counter decided plastic was cheaper than metal, but what a pain.

Plastic is such a bad idea in engines and trannys. I know they are going for cost savings and weight, but a plastic surface will never have the straightness to seal like metal. Plastic pump gears inside, heat, wear are just issues waiting to happen.

I do not know if Ford is as bad a Dodge when it comes to parts that last until the warranty ends.

 

[ROBERT BONNER]

My policy is to drop the fluid that is in the bottom of the trans every 30K. By doing this, I'm rolling over ~90% of the fluid every ~120,000 miles or ~6 years with my duty cycle.

The fluid does breakdown and lose it's shear strength over time. I made the mistake with my 2007 F150 of reading the owner's manual and believing it when it said to change the fluid at 150,000 for a non-towing vehicle. At 110,000 miles the fluid broke down and the clutches started to slip. I immediately researched it and changed out all of the fluid (a real pain of a job), I did it again proactively at 180,000 and the truck/transmission is still going strong at 205,000.

Since then, I've been dropping the fluid in the pan every 30K on all of my Automatics. Looking at the videos of what it takes to drop the fluid in the 10R's with the remote cooler, heat sheilds, exhaust crossover, etc....I'm springing for the pan with the plug. After the initial change, I only plan on changing the filter every 120,000 since they are basically just screens to keep the cats and dogs out. So, the pan with the plug will make the changes in between the filter changes a non event, not to mention avoiding all of the risk with getting the plastic pan to reseal after dropping it for the filter changes.

 

[TheDoug]

I noticed they only have f150 listed... has anyone reached out to confirm expy fitment?

 

[GixxerJasen]

I noticed they only have f150 listed... has anyone reached out to confirm expy fitment?

I think that's the deep one, the regular one lists the Expy for 2018-22

2017-2023 FORD w/ 10R80 Transmission Heavy-Duty Cast Aluminum Transmission Pan

Heavy-Duty Cast Aluminum Transmission Pan - Ford 10R80 Transmission The 10R80 transmission from Ford is revolutionary. This 10-speed power manager can go from street to strip with a flick of a button on some vehicle applications. All this available Bronco

ppepower.com

 

[TheDoug]

I think that's the deep one, the regular one lists the Expy for 2018-22

2017-2023 FORD w/ 10R80 Transmission Heavy-Duty Cast Aluminum Transmission Pan

Heavy-Duty Cast Aluminum Transmission Pan - Ford 10R80 Transmission The 10R80 transmission from Ford is revolutionary. This 10-speed power manager can go from street to strip with a flick of a button on some vehicle applications. All this available Bronco

ppepower.com

Thank you... I did not notice the two different models.

Who will be the first guinea pig?

 

[ROBERT BONNER]

Thank you... I did not notice the two different models.

Who will be the first guinea pig?

My pan should be arriving this week. I already have the fluid and filter. I'll let you know how it goes. BTW best price I could find on Motorcraft ULV fluid filter was at Rock.

 

[Hellwig]

Has anyone installed a PPE brand "Heavy-Duty Cast Aluminum" aftermarket transmission oil pan with plug? I'm considering the upgrade and wonder if anyone has already made the upgrade and if you've experienced any installation issues or leaking issues after installation.

Will this aftermarket tranny oil pan void factory warranty? Thank you very much.

 

[ROBERT BONNER]

Will this aftermarket tranny oil pan void factory warranty? Thank you very much.

Good question. I plan to retain the old POS plastic pan just in case. It certainly won't change the function of anything other than the ease of making transmission fluid changes; so, from a practical standpoint it won't degrade or hasten the demise of anything in the vehicle.

I plan to keep the truck long after the warranty expiration. If I only planned to keep the truck for 100K, I wouldn't bother with the pan or the changes, I'd just stick someone else with it with a smiley face from the Ford owners manual saying I had done all required maintenance. Knowing full well that the fluid would be shot by that time. My last truck went over 200K and since I live in NC, my intent is for this one to be a fine looking and running truck that hasn't cost me a fortune by the time it rolls 200K.

 

[bshowalter]

Any update on this? Considering this upgrade myself.

 

[kryichek]

Any update on this? I'm considering this myself since I'm at 31k

 

[GixxerJasen]

I'm still looking to do this. I did contact them via email and they didn't see any reason why the deeper pan shouldn't work on the Expedition, even though it doesn't show a valid application on their website.

 

[kryichek]

Finally got the deep pan installed. In the current Texas heat (105) I noticed about a 10 to 12 degree drop on the Highway

 

[GixxerJasen]

Nice!

 

[TheDoug]

Finally got the deep pan installed. In the current Texas heat (105) I noticed about a 10 to 12 degree drop on the Highway View attachment 78458

Do you think the deep one will have any issue with skid plate clearance?

 

[sjwhiteley]

Finally got the deep pan installed. In the current Texas heat (105) I noticed about a 10 to 12 degree drop on the Highway View attachment 78458

I understand getting the fluid level correct could be a pain to get right - the ‘dipstick’ is right under there and needs different amounts depending on the application? Do you have any comment on how you overcame this?