Anyone know where the 12v outlets are in the 2025 model?

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So our 2024 Expedition has been approved for lemon buy back. Today we went to the local dealership to check out the King Ranch Expedition to see what it looks like. According to the manual on the Ford website, there should be four 12v outlets in the vehicle (our 2024 Expedition has 4). However after looking around, I only found 1 in the center console, and 1 in the back of the vehicle, and could not find the other 2. Did they remove it in the vehicle? It seems there is some discussion on the F-150 forums saying vehicles built after Jan 2025 seems to have had the 2nd row 12v outlet removed.

Also before you guys mention there are USB ports, I use, and my father uses the 12v outlets to charge our laptops, and we have some devices that requires more current than what the 5v/3A USB-C ports they gave will provide.

Edit: Not the Ford manual. According to the Ford spec page there should be four 12v outlets, however in the Ford manual it shows only 2 fuses for the said outlets, so I'm guessing they removed 2 of them in the 2025 model.
 
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Two, per owners manual
That is the AC outlet. But anyways, despite what the specs on the website say that there are 4 12v outlets, it seems only 2 is listed on the fuse box diagram in the manual... Not a deal breaker, but would have preferred at least one in the 2nd row.
 

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This seems even more vague, “may be in the following locations” but I only see two as well.
At the dealership today, I rolled the carpets back to check. There are only 2 and the vehicle fuse box diagram only shows 2. Kind of a sucky thing to do, however the pros of this new vehicle outweighs this particular con.
 

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FYI, the other 2 are hidden, in places you would never think to look, and FoMoCo will give you a big cash bonus if you can find them, just make sure you take pics to send to them as proof, hahahahaha :D

j/k, of course !
 

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If you have a 120V plug, you can use that to charge your laptops. Do you really use 2 laptops while going down the road?
 
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If you have a 120V plug, you can use that to charge your laptops. Do you really use 2 laptops while going down the road?
Yes we do. It's my parents and I so. Depending on who isn't driving, we might be doing things on our laptops, sometimes it's work, sometimes it's checking the map on a bigger screen. (My father and I)

However you're right at 400W I think it should power both laptops just fine as long as one of them is sleeping. It's mostly because the 12V adapters we use is way smaller than the huge brick for the wall.

My dad's a Google engineer so, sometimes when he's on-call, he needs to be working from the laptop within an hour. We also are photographers and we sometimes shoot video. Our laptops are all high drain devices due to the high performance components inside and the battery life is usually not very good.
 
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If you have a 120V plug, you can use that to charge your laptops. Do you really use 2 laptops while going down the road?
I think those kind of folks are called "roadwarriors" hahaha

Been there, done that years ago, when ridin with a truck full of work compadres, 3-4 of which were checking for various project/site updates while rollin on to the next one....
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@BigOleFordFan It's a compromise between getting to go out and have fun, while also getting work done. I'm generally doing some level of stock trading until 1PM PST on week days. I generally carry laptop with me when I'm out. So does my dad.
 

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If you want to expand your 120 usage, you could always use a DC to AC inverter with 3 AC ports. I have used them in my '99 F-250SD and my wife's '17 Explorer powering two laptops and have not had a issue. It's just another option.
 
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