'23-'24 Questions...Looking to buy

[Jamo]

Hi All,
I'm looking to replace my 2014 EL LTD due to rocker rust. I'm looking at Limited versions, regular or MAX, but do they all come with HD tow package? If so, do they have the trailer brake limiter thing? Also, I see some with and/or without 4L on the shift knob.
Thanks...Jamo

 

[Rob6805]

HD tow is an option for all models. The telltale sign is if the vehicle has the trailer backup dial and brake controller built in. And I do believe that HD tow will have the two speed t-case w/ 4L.
HD tow will also have 3.73 gears.

 

[Jamo]

Thanks Rob,
I'll keep that in mind while searching. I don't tow heavy or often, mostly my old Ski Nautique through the Adirondacks. I like the extra rad's for cooling too. One thing I will avoid up here is power running boards. Not a good thing for our snow/ice/salt/sand.
I'm also unsure of difference between Limited and Platinum. Seems like most Plat's have the dreaded (to me) power running boards...

 

[dlcorbett]

Platinum for 23 and 24 is a fully loaded flagship. The limited makes most of the features of the platinum available in a package or stand alone option. If you dnt want the power running boards, you'll have to start away from platinum. The base limited pkg doesnt have power boards. The xlt high pkg is outfitted like a limited, and can be optioned with the HD tow.

 

[Jamo]

Thanks DLC...I had no idea they were making different levels of each, but I have seen leather in XLT's along with heated, but not cooled front seats. No fog lights in any XLT that I have seen...yet. I'm focusing on Limited, looking for the options I like...

 

[dlcorbett]

For the years your looking for, I believe the xlt high package was the 202a pkg that has the heated and cooled seats, 201a has heated leather, and 200 only has cloth seats. Its the same for the limited, 301 is the base pkg, 302 is the limited high pkg, 303 is the stealth appearance pkg and 304 is the stealth performance package.

 

[texsn95]

We have a 22 Limited with the 302 and it has the power running boards, heated and cooled seats, stereo is fine for the wife. We didn't want a higher trim level b/c we loathe the full-screen touchscreen. It has plenty of options for us and the Hvac hard buttons make it well worth not going up. It also has the 2nd row bench which is a unicorn.

 

[t4thfavor]

Just purchased a 2024 Limited Stealth Performance and it DOES NOT have the HD Tow or the 4L transfer case. It has the 3.5L HO engine with whatever comes with that. I have the "Tow Prep package" which I assume installs the 7 pin and tow bar, but it does not have the backup knob or the brake controller "stuff" on the dash. I did see another stealth performance package Limited which was nearly identical except it DID have the 4L, the backup stuff, and the brake controller.

 

[bb37]

From the 2024 Order Guide, here's what is included with HD Towing on a Limited:


Note that HD Towing includes the 3.73 Non-Limited-Slip rear axle. ControlTrac with the eLSD 3.73 rear axle is a separate option.

 

[Fastcar]

Thanks Rob,
I'll keep that in mind while searching. I don't tow heavy or often, mostly my old Ski Nautique through the Adirondacks. I like the extra rad's for cooling too. One thing I will avoid up here is power running boards. Not a good thing for our snow/ice/salt/sand.
I'm also unsure of difference between Limited and Platinum. Seems like most Plat's have the dreaded (to me) power running boards...

I could never figure out how the power running boards would be viable up north when plowing snow. I always put on a chrome nerf bar type to help keep the ice and snow from denting the door a rocker panels.

 

[NevadaGeo]

Being on my second Expy with the power running boards and living in snow/ice country, I have never had an issue with the boards sticking or freezing with ice. I have always used Weathertech mud/splash guards that keeps the boards and quarter panels clean. Very simple fix!

 

[t4thfavor]

I could never figure out how the power running boards would be viable up north when plowing snow. I always put on a chrome nerf bar type to help keep the ice and snow from denting the door a rocker panels.

Soooo, the power part keeps them "up" when you're driving around. They collect tons of snow and ice, and then go down (yet to have an issue) when you're stopped to get out. The fact that they are tucked up means the snow won't collect where they can't tuck back up, and the snow doesn't get into the gap between the body and the step where it would cause any issues going back down (by freezing to the body or whatever). I've knocked a few basketball sized chunks of ice off of ours in the last few weeks, but that's it.

 

[Adieu]

Always also check Lincoln Navigators before committing to purchase an expensive well-loaded Expedition

 

[dlcorbett]

1000%. I picked up a cpo 22 fully loaded nav with 47k miles for 51k. Amazing car.

 

[Left Coast Geek]

According to the 2022 sales brochure, in 2022, you only got the HD Tow and 3.73 final drive with a 4x4, and all 4x4's have it. In 2019 (mine), 4x4 and HD Tow were separate options, but the only 2019 HD Tows I found on the used market were Stealth. Every year is a different mix, YMMV. Oh, and all the 'fancy' ones tend to have the UGH 22" wheels, so I swapped my wheels for some 18" 'take-offs' from an F150 then sold the 22's on craigslist.

 

[Jamo]

I'm not a fan of the 22's either, and would probably do the same thing if what I get has them. I'd be happy with the 18's on my '14 as winter wheels. Would they fit?
Also...do the 4th gen's have the electric kick out rear side windows? I really like opening those with the sunroof to move air. I imagine they made them better with the elimination of stuff that works though.
Still on the hunt, focusing on 2024 MAX Limited w/tow...

 

[Left Coast Geek]

nope, no opening rear side windows on the 4Gs... just the door windows. and afaik, the only sunroof is the panoramic roof, which I'd rather not have, but its bundled with all the fancier trim packages.

re swapping for 18" wheels... if the wheels came from a F150, you have to trim about 1/2" off the ends of the rear axle stubs or the plastic cap won't fit on the wheel when mounted. If the wheels are off an older Expedition with solid rear axle, I dunno, probably the same thing? My 18's were 'take offs' from a 2023 or 2024 F150 FX4.