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  1. J

    Very disappointed!

    ZF 8 speeds were reported common failure on 2015-2017 Honda Pilots. Real POS. Reportedly better now but bought 2017 Limited Expedition instead.
  2. J

    Brand of Airbags and Inflators in 2017 Limited??

    After "celebrating" my 2 year anniversary since Ford sent me a recall letter on my 2008 Lincoln MKZ sedan with Takata airbags and inflators and STILL NO PARTS TO FIX I have to ask Does anyone know the brand of airbags and inflators in the 2017 Limited Expedition?? Thanks!
  3. J

    2017 mileage check.....

    Yes the Chevy shake on Tahoe & Yukons is why I went with 2017 Expedition. Ride at any speed of the Expedition is just plain smooth
  4. J

    2015 Expedition with Very Loud Fan

    Good discussion. In the horrid South Alabama heat and humidity my 2017 Limited was very loud in idle at times, had not gotten around to investigating yet, even my wife commented and she does not normally notice such things. Glad to know it was designed the way it is. Just left Mobile, Al...
  5. J

    Bull Bar

    Wow that is some front bumper! Actually my purchase of a 2017 Expedition Limited was due to exactly this controversy of crappy, rude, and generally stupid Interstate drivers, especially between "Spaghetti Junction" in Atlanta and Charlotte, NC on I-85. This mostly two lane interstate offers us...
  6. J

    Power Running Boards and mudflaps

    Weathertech mudflaps fit great and work fine on my 2017 Limited with power running boards!
  7. J

    New Expedition Hitch Cover

    It just brings out that there is a market for a good looking hitch cover for the Expedition!
  8. J

    2017 Expedition Limited New Mud Flaps.

    In any event, after checking with Weathertech, somewhere in the literature the numbers were reversed, I believe, and I mistakenly tried to put the rear mudflaps on the front and vice versa. In any event just to correct my earlier comments, flaps fit perfectly where they were designed to go...
  9. J

    2017 Expedition Limited New Mud Flaps.

    I went to install these same Weathertech part number mudflaps on my standard length 2017 Expedition Limited with power running boards and neither front nor back fit. The fronts had a clip that was part of the mudflap and instructions say to slide it on the deflector inside the fender, however...
  10. J

    2017 Drivers seat is so uncomfortable

    You are right, Ford does "decontent" as a vehicle gets older, My 2002 Silver/silver Crown Vic Sport had beautiful conforming leather seats. The following several I had till they stopped production had non conforming leather, almost like belting, that was uncomfortable. Seems like the do the...
  11. J

    Mud Flaps for 2017 Limited with Power Running Boards.

    Yes, great input. I was supposed to get followup from Weathertech when they had them available, never did though. Did they fit existing mounting holes?
  12. J

    The "Auto Stop-Start" is so annoying!!!!

    Also check YouTube, if there is a way as on the last gen F150's it will be on there!
  13. J

    Sync download error message

    Or just have your friendly Ford dealer do it! But allow 1-2 hours for that alone, apparently dealers have as much trouble downloading updates as we do off Ford "download websites" that are low tech to the point of being useless to the average owner. And again, this is from a company preaching...
  14. J

    Synch 3 Wifi update

    My dealer experience was it took them close to 2 hours with their laptop hooked to vehicle, so a complete upgrade from 2.2 to 2.3 for a non dealer tech likely will be at least that time, a lot more than that likely, or worse an incomplete transfer and SYNC disfunction. It should not be but till...
  15. J

    Love the Weather Map feature

    With Sirus you have to go through the BS of threatening to cancel to get $100/year, same aggrevation every year when they send a $250 bill. I have heard of others getting 12 months for less than that but they have to get really nasty. Stupid way to sell a product IMO
  16. J

    2017 PLATINUM EL BRAKES LASTING 7500 MILES!!!

    Since there are hills involved, try to get her to use the full range of gears available in M and not to put truck in D before reaching flat ground to use engine braking. 3 tons of truck is a lot for pads to slow up
  17. J

    Sync 2.3 Dealer Update

    After reading the difficulties on this site on owners trying to update their Expeditions Sync units with a dysfunctional (at least for me) Ford download website for the Sync 2.3 update I decided since I was scheduled for first oil change was to let the dealer do it. Taking my 2017...
  18. J

    Sync 2.2 to 2.3 upgrade problems

    I have tried several times to download Sync 2.3 from Ford's website but no success. The download indicator sprirals around, never stops and there are no control buttons. Really very poor even juvenile attempt by Ford to allow owners to do their own updating on what should be a simple process...
  19. J

    The "Auto Stop-Start" is so annoying!!!!

    Flexpedition: Funny on this forum of what can go wrong with Detroit "Better Ideas" you mention Air Bags BLOWING UP! My 2008 Lincoln MKZ sedan got a recall from Ford in July of 2016 due to the Takata air bag igniter (oops sorry inflator). Basically this first letter let me know there was a...
  20. J

    The "Auto Stop-Start" is so annoying!!!!

    Actually, the older cars you referenced would not have had STOP/START. The higher maintenance in starters and batteries is simply a matter of math. If you have 10X or 100X the normal number of start cycles, mechanical and electrical components wear out more quickly. Because the auto...
  21. J

    The "Auto Stop-Start" is so annoying!!!!

    I am sure most vehicles with STOP/START work acceptably when new, otherwise they would never sell any to even the dumbest buyer. The issue is when they get some age and wear and tear on them. Neither the auto manufacturers nor the auto media have run long term real world tests and documented...
  22. J

    The "Auto Stop-Start" is so annoying!!!!

    Yes the auto manufacturers have a mandate on mileage but not in how they achieve it. In addition of course Mr. Trump will likely cut back on emissions goals for manufactures soon as he has done other emissions, right or wrong. As to what difference it makes if the engine is running and can it...
  23. J

    The "Auto Stop-Start" is so annoying!!!!

    Eddie One of the UTube videos shows a Fiat Jeep having their disable control on the video screen (similar to Synch 3). In the Settings section you can select a time (up to 10 minutes) before the engine is allowed to shut off in START/STOP. This solution to me (I am not normally a Fiat...
  24. J

    The "Auto Stop-Start" is so annoying!!!!

    Good article from 2015, however it is amazing that none of the car manufacturers have published even that simplistic a test in non-real world conditions (no air conditioning on-we are in the Deep South as is much of the US population-get real). The article also ignores what happens at 50K (or...
  25. J

    The "Auto Stop-Start" is so annoying!!!!

    Stop/Start is the main reason I did not buy 2018 Chevy Traverse. Bought 2017 Expedition Limited instead after 10 years with GMC Acadias, but did not buy onto their 35% shrinkage and staying with same pricing... In my research I found all the various methods for defeating the Stop/Start from...

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