2017 PLATINUM EL BRAKES LASTING 7500 MILES!!!

[Parklot91]

So,

My wife's 2017 Platinum Expedition EL with 22" wheels as bought off the lot is going through front and rear brake pads AND rotors every 7500 miles! We were able to get the first two change outs covered by warranty. But now we are on our own. The local Ford dealership blames it on my wife's driving. However, My wife's 2005 King Ranch Expedition had normal brake life of 20-30k miles due to the hill we live on. My wife also had a 2015 Platinum Expedition EL with 22" wheels that also went through brakes at a 7500 mile rate before it was totaled in an accident. My 2002 F-250 also has had normal brake wear. 7500 miles is ridiculous! What is strange is when I google my issues, I don't see it pop up as much as I would expect. Surely their are others out there experiencing my problems? To finish my post, I have been told by a family member to get holed and slotted aftermarket rotors and ceramic pads. The reason for this is to keep temperature down to see if we can get better mileage on the brakes. Is anybody else experiencing this problem? And do you have any better ideas as to fix this issue? Brand referrals on aftermarket parts are appreciated as well!

Thank you in advance!

Mike

 

[JExpedition07]

if they are all wearing evenly idk, I could see if it was one pad wearing faster or even two it being a system problem.. maybe stop using OEM pads buy something better and swap out and see if it improves, possible they cheapened out on the original factory ones over the years. I know it seems it should be a warranty item but if it were me I’d replace with something else and hope the headache is over. Sounds to me like they use junk pads.

 

[ExpeditionAndy]

Welcome to the forum.

I've got 5600 miles on mine and the pads look like brand new. If she has a heavy foot she is going to burn through brakes faster than normal.

 

[J Ski]

Yeah it’s her driving... my wife does same thing

 

[AllBoostNoEco]

Does she left-foot brake and is accidentally riding the brake pedal? I feel as if the EB-powered trucks are much more reactive to slight pressure than any of my V8-powered trucks were.
All in all I find this rather surprising. My wife’s 15 Platinum EL currently has 30K on her brakes and there’s plenty of life left in hers. My 15 XLT EL is now at 15K in the mountains on 80-pound 35” LT tires, including 1K towing a 9K trailer, (50K total miles and I don’t know if they were ever changed) and I still have a ton of life left in them.

I’d say either it’s her driving or both her trucks are/were flukes.
If you want to go aftermarket, I’ve had great luck with EBC, Hawk, and StopTech in the past. There’s also a company that started pushing into the truck market last year called R1 Concepts that was getting good reviews from the F150 crowd.

 

[chuck s]

Follow her when she's driving. She's resting her left foot on the brake pedal. Brake lights will be on 90% of the time.

-- Chuck

 

[Adieu]

Sensitive brake pedal + habit of resting foot on brake pedal when on cruise control??

Btw since youre in CA, maybe teach her to drive barefoot? In certain shoes/boots you cant really feel what youre doing

 

[Parklot91]

Yes, she drives like a race car driver and used to drive a stick shift. So she definitely has a heavy foot but she swears that she doesn't hit the brake or rest her foot on the brake with either foot.
I discussed the aftermarket idea with the Ford service director, he said that ceramic pads make a lot of noise, that stock rotors will not work well with ceramic so I must buy rotors with steel material meant for ceramic pads, and that the ABS is programmed for factory parts friction so it might not work as well with aftermarket friction which is usually more aggressive.
The director recommended placing it in manual and motor brake down the hill. That not to worry if the motor high revs because the car computer will protect it and that it can handle it. We live on a hill where you go down a steep hill 35 mph for 1-2 miles and at the very bottom of the hill is a signal. So if anyone wants to do the speed limit you have to basically ride your brakes for the whole time and then sit at a light at the bottom. The service director claims our rotors had 1/4" heat spots with cracks. My wife is mad because the 2005 expedition handled her driving habits and this new expensive car can't!! LOL!

 

[chuck s]

Follow her. She's riding the brake and can't be driving down hill all the time.

Valentine 1 will spot those radar traps at the bottom of the hill (and everywhere else). Much cheaper than brakes or her speeding tickets. Get the Savvy attachment for the OBD2 port so it comes on with the engine and isn't running 24/7. Ford power outlets are always powered. Killed a couple of my batteries.

-- Chuck

 

[gtnator]

So,

My wife's 2017 Platinum Expedition EL with 22" wheels as bought off the lot is going through front and rear brake pads AND rotors every 7500 miles! We were able to get the first two change outs covered by warranty. But now we are on our own. The local Ford dealership blames it on my wife's driving. However, My wife's 2005 King Ranch Expedition had normal brake life of 20-30k miles due to the hill we live on. My wife also had a 2015 Platinum Expedition EL with 22" wheels that also went through brakes at a 7500 mile rate before it was totaled in an accident. My 2002 F-250 also has had normal brake wear. 7500 miles is ridiculous! What is strange is when I google my issues, I don't see it pop up as much as I would expect. Surely their are others out there experiencing my problems? To finish my post, I have been told by a family member to get holed and slotted aftermarket rotors and ceramic pads. The reason for this is to keep temperature down to see if we can get better mileage on the brakes. Is anybody else experiencing this problem? And do you have any better ideas as to fix this issue? Brand referrals on aftermarket parts are appreciated as well!

Thank you in advance!

Mike

Before getting into possible solutions, I'm actually questioning all your assumptions, just to make sure we have all the facts straight first: Do you trust the mechanic/dealer to be telling you the truth? I would get a second opinion first before spending all that money. It wouldn't be the first time a mechanic dishonestly made this claim.

 

[mbtech2003]

Switch to power stop ceramic pads. I’ve got 50k miles on my set and their half worn now. I do a lot of towing and they do squeak a little when first cold. But hold up wonderful.
Josh.

 

[Expedition007]

Are the pads being installed incorrectly? If you look at the pads above, you’ll see there are two round bumps on one of the pads. We had a customer come in with dragging brakes. It happened to be that the inside pad was swapped for the outside pad. This would cause the caliper to get bound up on the slides and not release fully.

 

[Expedition007]

I would jack up the front wheels and see if they roll easy or if they feel like the brakes are applied. The truck we ran into, every few applications of the brakes they would hold hard enough that you couldn’t turn them by hand. The customers only complaint was an odor of brakes when parked.

 

[jeff kushner]

Unfortunately, the pads that have been discarded tell the story.....it could be the proportional valve assembly keeping pressure on the system causing the calipers to drag...of if the pads are glazed, she's impersonating Mario and needs to allow more time to stop....quite common female trait....bring that puppy in for a landing at 65mph at the red light, then bind 'em up to stop!

FYI- glazing or glassing of the pads indicates HARD stopping, more than once....continual stopping like this will warp the rotors by superheating them beyond their ability to shed the heat load......

jeff

 

[jrc50]

Since there are hills involved, try to get her to use the full range of gears available in M and not to put truck in D before reaching flat ground to use engine braking. 3 tons of truck is a lot for pads to slow up

 

[cekkk]

For many years we lived at 9 thousand foot elevation and drove to roughly eight thousand foot elevation within four miles every time we left the driveway. Down to 6000 if we went to town. 4 Expeditions and only had brake work once on each. As others have said, it's her.

And has she ever used lower gears for descending? We were occasionally able to get down to the highway without touching the brakes until we got to the stop sign.

As for fast driving, I often am passed multiple times by the same speeder. Most have no idea how to make good time. I'll pass them at stoplights they've raced to as it turns green, other tricks of experience.

 

[ManUpOrShutUp]

I would blame the wife. I bought my Expedition used in May 2015. The dealership had just done the front brakes; no idea when the rear brakes were done. I have put 42K miles on it since and my brakes are still good all around. Meanwhile, my wife has driven about the same miles in that time period and has gone through 2 sets of fronts and 1 set of rears in a Mazda that weighs about half what my truck weighs. Moreover, I'm running Motorcraft stock parts and she's running premium pads and rotors.