Body Lift inquiry

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4X4FORD

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Hello everybody,
I'm new here (as a member) but been a guest for a while!
So I have a 2000 expy and was wondering how hard is it for a body lift install? im just looking for a little more height ( I like big rigs) i plan on installing a lift kit later during the summer and a few other things. But for now i am curious about the body lift! Any cons to it? how hard is it to install for a newbie (never done lifts before), any special tools or parts? Don't want to everyone overwhelm with questions as of now...some info would be great!
 

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Dealing with 13 year old rusty bolts is always a pain in the butt.

You really need a couple of jacks, stands, etc to lift and support the body. An impact wrench and a can of pb blaster will help get those body bolts loose.
 

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Depending on how much height you are actually looking for, maybe just look into doing a suspension lift. Crank the torsion bars and add some spacers in the back for an easy 3". If you want more than that though body lift is the way to go.
 

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Depending on how much height you are actually looking for, maybe just look into doing a suspension lift. Crank the torsion bars and add some spacers in the back for an easy 3". If you want more than that though body lift is the way to go.

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Body lift is normally done after or with a suspension lift. Order some 2 inch spacers off eBay. They're easy to install. Just need some patience.
 

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I put a 3" on my 98 and after removing some carpet and drilling out body mount bolts i confirmed it was more of a pain in the ass than i will ever deal with again. It sucked bad. Go spacers first
 
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Tonydiv, fordandpolaris, jeff & flightstopper...Thank you all for your insight and info sorry for the late reply been really busy with school and work! If you don't mind I have another question... Just for a quick background I'm 16 and have a '00 XLT expy 4WD. I have been looking at lifts for awhile now im interested in the 6in lift..I found one (cant remember exact name now) for around $990+taxes (guess they need it off shelves)..any how i plan if i get the 6in lift on running 35's or 37's..From lurking through the forum ive heard that it is pretty expensive to "Regear" I would like to avoid that as much as possible. Is it even possible to run a 6in lift kit with out regearing? what about the driveline what kinda effects would it have on it? My truck as its known around town as the hulk is a strong runner so far..got some good plans for it like a 4.6l stroker kit for it id be working on with my uncle..Basically what are the major things i should know about installing a 6in lift kit? i want to add a PA body lift aswell as i might aswell do since im lifting it..Isnt that what most redneck teens want lifted and loud trucks ?:rocking: :headbang:
thanks
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4x4Ford, I am running 37's on my truck and ran for 6 years on 35's. I ran the 35's with stock gears and I bit the bullet and regeared for the 37's. Looking back, I wish I would have regeared the 35's. Will the truck handle running 35's on the stock 3.73's, sure. Just keep in mind that you have to adjust your max towing by an appropriate amount (about a 30% reduction). If you are currently running 3.55 gears, you need to drop it by 40% roughly.

Just keep in mind that what you are going to experience is that around town, you are really going ot have to get into the gas to get the truck rolling (especially with the 4.6L motor you have). So, your in town mileage is going to suck. No way around that. On the highway, you will see it get better, but you will need to get the RPMs up to over 1800 RPM. With 35's, you are looking at getting the truck up to about 65 mph as I recall. Then you will be just entering the efficiency/power band of the motor. You drive the truck under 1800 RPM and you can plan on your mileage reflecting how far from 1800 RPM you are.

To put thing into perspective and give you some real world numbers to toss around in your head. In stock form, my truck was pulling 16-18 mpg on the highway. Installing the tires/lift and not recalibrating the speedo, my mileage fell to around 13 mpg on the same drives (loss of about 4 mpg even taking the speedo error into account). I then recalibrated the speedo (on my 97 it is easy, on your 2000, you will have to get a box that you will have to wire into the electronics of the truck) and I gained 2 mpg back (so, then was pulling about 15 mpg). In town, I was in single digits easy, regardless of the speedo being recalibrated or not.

When I stepped up to the 37's, I regeared with 4.56 gears which restored the truck to essentially a stock setup with 3.73 gears and 30" tires (ie, same RPM for a given gear at a given speed). My mileage is now 13 mpg regardless of where I drive. This also restored my ability to tow heavier things.

LIfting a truck and regearing are completely independent things. The only thing that ties the two together is the tires. You could install a 20" lift and run the stock tires and the need to regear is not needed. Truck may look a little funny, but, that is a different argument all together. The amount of lift and the need to regear is a function of the size tires you plan on running.

If you have any questions, let me know. I can feed a lot of information your way.
 

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Does the lift kit come with new front CV shafts? Your stock won't work with that kind of height so I would think it would but figured I'd ask. Honestly these things are so top heavy I'd not want to go that high for fear of rolling it on a corner if it was my daily driver. Of course I also tend to drive a little faster than average perhaps but still. Are you planning on doing a lot of trail running with this rig? Why add the body lift if your only planning on 37's? I'd guess they'd fit alright with the 6" susspension lift seeing as
33's will fit on a stock ride.
I suppose in the end it all comes down to your wallet. You can do anything if you have the cash to do it right. Just be sure to get a step ladder for the ladies :grd:
 
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