Brakes...

[legendary70]

Hello all.

I just put some brand new Duralast gold brake pads in the rear. the front has half if not a little more than half left on them. My concern is that the rare times that i forget to take the emergency brake off and start driving....the car just moves with no hesitation. My 2005 explorer does not move at all if the ebrake is on. what could be the issue? thx.

 

[Plati]

Hello all.

I just put some brand new Duralast gold brake pads in the rear. the front has half if not a little more than half left on them. My concern is that the rare times that i forget to take the emergency brake off and start driving....the car just moves with no hesitation. My 2005 explorer does not move at all if the ebrake is on. what could be the issue? thx.

what year is your expy?
chances are the parking brake is shot (the brake is broke)
i've rebuilt the parking brake on my 2003 expy at least 4 times now
you know its old style brake shoes inside the rear rotors, right?

 

[legendary70]

it is a 2013 expy. well the ebrake actually works when i park on an incline. any ideas?

 

[1955moose]

All the 1st through 3rd edition Expedition use a hat type rotor with a small set of brake shoes that activate by a cable on each side. It's possible one of the cables is broken, or the shoes need adjustment. Pull the rears again, check for broken cables, pull both rear rotors.

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[legendary70]

thx

 

[1955moose]

Np!

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[Plati]

Things that were bad on my 2003XLT "Rusty". The shoes were so worn down that they did nothing and had to be replaced (2 times). The shoes needed the adjustment on the star wheel (4 times). The short cable was bad & was stuck and needed to be replaced. ALL the mechanical parts inside the brake rotor were a rusted and frozen solid mess (multiple times) and needed to be replaced, with copper infused grease applied. Probably other things I fergetted.

 

[Trainmaster]

I love New York, Mr. Sticker.

Usually those brake parts rot away until they fall apart and begin jingling around inside the drums like sleigh bells. This is, unless you try using them after a decade. Then the metal stumps that lost their linings dig into the drums and won't release.

 

[Plati]

Good laugh on that one! Thx

My favorite on the parking brake maintenance is when its all rusty inside with a big ridge so the rotor doesnt come off. As far as I know the only way to get it removed is to wail on it with a sledgehammer. Wailing away at it from every possible angle (rotating it between hits) until off. Thats right up there with the lug nuts with stainless caps that fail. A lot of fun can be had working on wheels! Great exercise too.

 

[Trainmaster]

No matter how many rear drums I've monkey-hammered off Expeditions, I'm always surprised at the amount of rusty metal that falls onto the driveway,

 

[rjdelp7]

How about this? Mine works, but won't release. The driver side goes on, like a gorilla brake. The passenger side drags and has to be pounded off. During state inspection, the mechanic has a special bar, to release, stuck brake drum adjusters. I asked how much to fix it? He said "why? it will just start doing it again", "as long as it holds, it passes". The 'drum in hat' is a stupid, flawed design.

 

[Trainmaster]

I applied the parking brake on my 2000 for the first time in 115,000 miles. It wouldn't release of course. That was my education.

 

[1955moose]

It's the cables that are the biggest issue. Lube them every time you do an oil change. I agree, the shoe setup doesn't work well. Old drum brakes worked on early vehicles due to constant movement day in day out, vs once in awhile. Too bad they don't offer a disc activated setup like my Lincoln's had.

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[rjdelp7]

It's the cables that are the biggest issue. Lube them every time you do an oil change. I agree, the shoe setup doesn't work well. Old drum brakes worked on early vehicles due to constant movement day in day out, vs once in awhile. Too bad they don't offer a disc activated setup like my Lincoln's had.

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Lube where? The cables seize inside the plastic casing or the shoes rust to the backing plates. You can't 'oil' the shoes.

 

[1955moose]

Sure you can. It's called anti sieze on backing plate. And pull the rotors off once a year and clean the gunk out. As far as the cables I use the clamp over cable luber that I use on motorcycle cables. Eventually you'll have to replace the 3 cables, especially if you live in a rusty climate.

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