Break-in Service

[rhk118]

I know its probably been beaten to death on here somewhere...just wondering thoughts on doing a break-in oil change at 1000-1200 miles with this engine? Everyone on the sales side of the dealership says no...I imagine Ford breaks these in at the factory, but looking on keeping her for a long time...

Thoughts? I was provided no info when I asked, and the manual is really vague as well - every 5000 for dusty/towing, 10000 for light duty, and 7500 for the inbetween-ers...

 

[aggiegrad05]

I did it. If I didn’t need to, all I’m out is $65 and some time.

 

[rhk118]

I did it. If I didn’t need to, all I’m out is $65 and some time.

Thanks, totally agree just going to do it as well unless there’s something I’m missing like some kind of special additive to the factory installed oil (which I think hasn’t been done in any vehicle for a very long time)

 

[rumline]

Now that the original question is answered I'm here with a slight threadjack. I've read several places that ecoboosts should have their oil changed every 5000 miles tops, given that they regularly get fuel in the oil. Comments on this?

 

[1955moose]

5,000 is a safe bet on any engine if your planning on keeping it. It's cheap, it's quick, and you've got ammo in case your under warranty. Like your body, no such thing as too clean. I here people in the deep South, shower 2-3 times a day during summer months, due to heat! Seriously though, oil and filter changes at 5k or even below that is just smart money. Yeah, you can send your old motor oil off to labs for analysis, but why bother. Compared to major motor costs, a drop of oil every 4-5k justs is smart.

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[Black]

Now that the original question is answered I'm here with a slight threadjack. I've read several places that ecoboosts should have their oil changed every 5000 miles tops, given that they regularly get fuel in the oil. Comments on this?

I have a dealer based lifetime power train warranty and they require a 5k change to keep the warranty intact.
Oil is cheap I would not go over 5k even without that requirement.

 

[rhk118]

Now that the original question is answered I'm here with a slight threadjack. I've read several places that ecoboosts should have their oil changed every 5000 miles tops, given that they regularly get fuel in the oil. Comments on this?

That’s not a thread jack, very good point. When they were reviewing the pre-paid maintenance plans i couldn’t believe they were pushing for an every 10K service interval...didn’t do that! I’m all for extended intervals, but this newer culture seems to make everyone think that 10K/ 1 year is the norm for any engine.

 

[jeff kushner]

Most of us with grey grew up "washing out the crap" by doing the 1st oil change early. There was good reason for this too as machining still came with its share of filings and burrs that become detached.

Welcome to the post industrial age where all that is largely in the past.......but I still did my 1st oil change at 1000 or 1500 miles.....to get the crap out.....LOL...true story

jeff

 

[JohnT]

Or if you bought a Chinese made lister diesel engine you could flush it immediately to get the casting sand out. also a true story

I know modern engines are machined to fantastic tolerances, get spanked on the test bed, get an oil change before going into the car, etc etc

But the thought of running a new engine for that length on one oil and filter change freaks me out.

I was in Montana at 8000 km (5000 miles) and had a fast lane oil change done by Ford. 44 USD later I felt much better.

Same thing up here is a 110 CAD wallet lightning operation

 

[Flexpedition]

Every year Hertz/Avis/National/Budget/Thrifty/Dollar/Payless/Alamo/Enterprise doesn't care thousands and thousands of times.

 

[1955moose]

Remember buying a used rental car, is like marrying a ******. You could, but do you really want something that's been ridden that hard! Both have clearances that are looser than they should be!

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[Dark Z]

Remember buying a used rental car, is like marrying a ******. You could, but do you really want something that's been ridden that hard! Both have clearances that are looser than they should be!

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Except the hookers are probably better at doing what these used cars can do.

 

[jeff kushner]

Remember buying a used rental car, is like marrying a ******. You could, but do you really want something that's been ridden that hard! Both have clearances that are looser than they should be!

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Reminds me of a BMW motorcycle ad a couple of years ago. The ad showed a strikingly beautiful young thing next to a used bike....with the caption;

"You know you aren't the first, but do you really care?"


Perfect!

jeff

 

[aggiegrad05]

Reminds me of a BMW motorcycle ad a couple of years ago. The ad showed a strikingly beautiful young thing next to a used bike....with the caption;

"You know you aren't the first, but do you really care?"


Perfect!

jeff

Aston Martin did something similar.

 

[1955moose]

With women and cars, theirs some questions you don't want the answer to. Never ask your girlfriend/wife, how many before me? She was taught by her friends, say just a few, to make you feel better. The owner or dealer will never tell the truth I don't know they'll say, or just flat out lie. Good thing neither one fesses up with the truth. We'd never buy used car's, or get married. Somethings in life are best unknown.

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[rjdelp7]

I have owned close to a dozen new cars and small engine/tractor. New, proper running engines are not filled with metal shavings. I have noticed one or two in the pan, some worse than others. I still do the first change in about half the recommended time. I read new engines are filled with special oil formulation, to encourage break in. I doesn't have the friction modifiers and has high zinc phosphates(to harden surfaces). It also has special ultraviolet dyes, to spot leaks, using a special light(so they know its the factory oil). Dealers discourage owners from early changes. Pretty odd considering, they would lose money! Some synthetics are so good(Royal Purple), they have been known to polish the cylinder walls on new engines(bad). New engines are mechanically spun on the assembly line. The new cars are tested at the end of the line. They are pulled onto rollers and taken up to 70mph for 90 seconds.