Jayson Wonder
Member
Hello All,
This is a post with information about the vehicle I am pretty much ready to buy. I went to look at it and test drive it this afternoon and made a list of my findings. Hoping that persons here with knowlege of the 2nd Gen's might be able to share thier knowlege and thoughts prior to me pulling the trigger or walking away.
2003 Expedition EB
168k km's
5.4L engine
asking $10,888 CAD
The Good:
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- Good solid brakes, new front pads, etc, stops on a dime
- Motor seems solid and to be running smooth and according to the diagnostics no issues with misses, etc. Can't verify when spark plugs were last changed but the diagnostic show that it was running rough prior to the replacement of a coil pack on #5 cylinder.
- Good tires
- Body & paint seem to be decent, small scrape on rear bumper
- Interior is decent shape, no tears in leather or anything
- Cruise control works
- 4WD / AWD working
- Fairly low km's for the year I think
The Bad
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- Lot's of electrical issues fom what I can tell, not sure if they are simple fixes / fuses or relays but I am somewhat concerned:
- No fog / lower running lights
- Rear view mirror not recieving power, won't light up when turn to auto
- Power pedals not working
- Passenger heated / cooling seat not working
- Rear wiper not working at all
- No back up alarm sensor working
- Rear heater seems to always stay on if front is on (not sure if this is normal)
- Read drivers side window goes down but not up from driver controls, works from read door control though.
- Rear defroster works on only 6 of 9 lines
- Strange black button under drivers steering wheel, looks like maybe an aftermarket system of some sort although there appears to be no other alarm than the factory one installed so I am a bit concerned with what it is and if it might be a cause for the electrical problems
- Missing a headrest for the 2nd row drivers side captains chair
- Water seemed to be comming in on front passenger side in between sunroof and door frame. Can't tell if this is a leak or excessive condensation build up as the truck is not driven every day. Seemed like a fair bit of water though and the floor below it was a bit damp. Could be that the sunroof was left open just not sure
- Smelled a bit musty but I think the previous owners must have had a dog or else this smell is related to some water collecting in carpets
Overall the car ran quite smooth and suspension and steering seemed tight. I like the truck but am a bit worried about the long list of my complaint items. I know it is a 2003 so I cannot expect it to be like new but I would personally like to fix these things, some sooner that later and do not want to have to spend a fortune as soon as I take it home.
If anyone here has any tips, experiences or suggetions about the issues please let me know. I thought the price was reasonable prior to checking it out. The used dealer is not really intrested in negotiating the price down any further so it leaves me in a tight position.
Sorry for the long post, any input is appreciated!
This is a post with information about the vehicle I am pretty much ready to buy. I went to look at it and test drive it this afternoon and made a list of my findings. Hoping that persons here with knowlege of the 2nd Gen's might be able to share thier knowlege and thoughts prior to me pulling the trigger or walking away.
2003 Expedition EB
168k km's
5.4L engine
asking $10,888 CAD
The Good:
----------
- Good solid brakes, new front pads, etc, stops on a dime
- Motor seems solid and to be running smooth and according to the diagnostics no issues with misses, etc. Can't verify when spark plugs were last changed but the diagnostic show that it was running rough prior to the replacement of a coil pack on #5 cylinder.
- Good tires
- Body & paint seem to be decent, small scrape on rear bumper
- Interior is decent shape, no tears in leather or anything
- Cruise control works
- 4WD / AWD working
- Fairly low km's for the year I think
The Bad
--------
- Lot's of electrical issues fom what I can tell, not sure if they are simple fixes / fuses or relays but I am somewhat concerned:
- No fog / lower running lights
- Rear view mirror not recieving power, won't light up when turn to auto
- Power pedals not working
- Passenger heated / cooling seat not working
- Rear wiper not working at all
- No back up alarm sensor working
- Rear heater seems to always stay on if front is on (not sure if this is normal)
- Read drivers side window goes down but not up from driver controls, works from read door control though.
- Rear defroster works on only 6 of 9 lines
- Strange black button under drivers steering wheel, looks like maybe an aftermarket system of some sort although there appears to be no other alarm than the factory one installed so I am a bit concerned with what it is and if it might be a cause for the electrical problems
- Missing a headrest for the 2nd row drivers side captains chair
- Water seemed to be comming in on front passenger side in between sunroof and door frame. Can't tell if this is a leak or excessive condensation build up as the truck is not driven every day. Seemed like a fair bit of water though and the floor below it was a bit damp. Could be that the sunroof was left open just not sure
- Smelled a bit musty but I think the previous owners must have had a dog or else this smell is related to some water collecting in carpets
Overall the car ran quite smooth and suspension and steering seemed tight. I like the truck but am a bit worried about the long list of my complaint items. I know it is a 2003 so I cannot expect it to be like new but I would personally like to fix these things, some sooner that later and do not want to have to spend a fortune as soon as I take it home.
If anyone here has any tips, experiences or suggetions about the issues please let me know. I thought the price was reasonable prior to checking it out. The used dealer is not really intrested in negotiating the price down any further so it leaves me in a tight position.
Sorry for the long post, any input is appreciated!
