Dealership troubles................

[Erich Zeppelin]

I took my 1999 E.B. Expedition to the dealership to have the air suspension recalibrated, (the rear air bags were staying fully inflated) They quoted me $99.00 annd took her away. Came back and told me the tech was having trouble figuring out how to use the scanner. Came back an hour later and told me it was a stuck solenoid, get back with me on the price, then came back and told me it was the PCM and that was over $500.00 just for the part, I told them that the control module's never go out, (yes, they go out, but its very very rare) and why did the work order have DTC C 1770 on it? and did it have any other code's? he said yes, but the tech didnt write them down, then he told me that they broke a piece and that the air system no longer functions! now I have to go back monday morning for them to fix what they broke. 4 hours later I'm dragging my ass back home, 4 hours at the dealership! &*%#@!!!! Can I take care of a DTC C 1770 on my own? and where is it located? thanks guys!

 

[TheGuyWho]

I NEVER EVER use "stealerships" for maintenance!! They hire the most retarded people to work there and they lie lie lie thru their teeth about everything!
Im sorry for your frustration buddy, that really sucks! Went thru it with my Mach 1 mustang too, but ill never go back! As for the code 1770... Im not sure exactly what it is. I tried to google it, but got nothin.

 

[Erich Zeppelin]

The dealership and only the dealership can do a recalibration. The C 1770 is a vent solenoid, I found one from Ford for $78.00 but I cant find one anywhere else.

 

[TheGuyWho]

Hey, just found this on another Ford forum...


C1770 Air Susp Vent Solenoid — Circuit Failure

So, yeah. Sounds like your solenoid needs to be replaced. I wonder how hard it could be. I don't have air suspension, so I really have no clue what your under carriage looks like. I hope this helps though:

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-b1428-c1770-c1790-c1818-c1830-and-c1850.html

 

[TheGuyWho]

The dealership and only the dealership can do a recalibration. The C 1770 is a vent solenoid, I found one from Ford for $78.00 but I cant find one anywhere else.

I posted my last post while you were posting this ^^^^

In my opinion, most OEM Motorcraft parts are much much better quality than any of the cheap ass Chinese made crap thats sold. Try googling some how-to's on that solenoid repair and see if its something you and a buddy and some beer cant fix. Then let the retarded monkeys at Ford "recalibrate" it.

 

[Erich Zeppelin]

Thanks! I found the solenoid location, under the drivers side door on the frame rail. I can get the bottom plastic button off, but I cant get the top one off. I pulled the air lines off and put some oil in the solenoid, stuck a tooth pick in it, got it to open and close, put a 9V battery to the terminals and I can hear it click.....................Hell, I dont even know if I'm tearing up the right part!

 

[TheGuyWho]

Heres a rebuilt solenoid (actual Ford part)... $35!!

http://www.ford-suspension-parts.com/ford/ford-expedition-suspension-parts.html

 

[Erich Zeppelin]

I saw that too, but mine looks bigger and is white......I think those go on the rear air bags.

 

[Big Red Monster]

why not just convert to coils like it was done on my 2002? its so much better and more reliable then that air system. my truck had the coil over upgrade done when i bought it and i was happy it came with the coils already because if it had air i was going to change it out any ways

 

[Erich Zeppelin]

I like the air system, and you have to remember that when these things are old and collectable, mine will be all original!

 

[99exbyut]

ive still got my bags on mine. been trying to figure out to hook them up manualy so i can control them with out getting that check suspension light. that way when i tow it wont have the sag to it.

 

[Erich Zeppelin]

ive still got my bags on mine. been trying to figure out to hook them up manualy so i can control them with out getting that check suspension light. that way when i tow it wont have the sag to it.

Just do the rear air bags like the old air shocks, run new air lines to your rear bumper, drill one or two holes for the air fittings (look like the ones on your tires) and fill them as needed.

 

[2000eb]

I saw that too, but mine looks bigger and is white...

i hope thats not what she said

 

[Erich Zeppelin]

Now that I look at the post, yeah, that looks really wrong don't it.................

 

[ExpeditionDrew]

i hope thats not what she said

 

[Expeditionary]

honestly i hate to be "that guy" because I have seen that you have been having ALOT of trouble with the air suspension on this truck and I have to say just F%&# it and coil spring the B*tch Monroe part #90010 for 4wd and 90006 for 2wd, its about $200 from rockauto but you can get it from streetside auto for cheaper, you just have to lookup a coupon code.
Get a buddy to help you (not necessary) the ONLY hard part is getting the driver side shock for the rear on... the rest is cake with a socket set and common sense. Mine didn't even come with instructions and we did it in 2 hours or so

 

[2000eb]

there is a company called airbagit.com i think thats the site they are based in mesa,az like half mile from me and they sell coils CHEAP its worth lookin them up and giving them a call

 

[Erich Zeppelin]

uhm...............

honestly i hate to me "that guy" because I have seen that you have been having ALOT of trouble with the air suspension on this truck and I have to say just F%&# it and coil spring the B*tch Monroe part #90010 for 4wd and 90006 for 2wd, its about $200 from rockauto but you can get it from streetside auto for cheaper, you just have to lookup a coupon code.
Get a buddy to help you (not necessary) the ONLY hard part is getting the driver side shock for the rear on... the rest is cake with a socket set and common sense. Mine didn't even come with instructions and we did it in 2 hours or so

Well I'm screwed, I have no common sense, just ask my wife, she'll yell, I mean tell you.................. but really, I have only one problem, but it seems that no one on the forum has any solutions except to swap out the air for coils and shocks, and I really dont want to do that.

 

[Big Red Monster]

Well I'm screwed, I have no common sense, just ask my wife, she'll yell, I mean tell you.................. but really, I have only one problem, but it seems that no one on the forum has any solutions except to swap out the air for coils and shocks, and I really dont want to do that.

i think thats everyones solution because its the easiest lol. i understand why you dont want to change them but the coils are alot more reliable in some ways. and its just alot less to go wrong down the road. my dads friend has an expedition with rear air bags and hes replaced every single piece including the compressor in the past six months

 

[2000eb]

my friend had the bags on his till he blew one lol but i really didnt notice much of a difference in the ride so i dont see the point in keeping them plus everyone who has the bags seems to have so many issues with em thats why everyone says get coils we have no problems with ours plus if your on a road trip and blow a bag it just ruined your whole trip its not worth riskin especially with the problem prone air setups that they put on the expy