Downsizing from 22" wheels... 20" or 18" w/ CCD suspension

[Lou Hamilton]

Since being stuck at home, I have been looking at wheel options.

Looking at 20" wheels, but was wondering if I should consider the additional sidewall the 18" wheels. However, are 18" wheels ok with the CCD suspension and brake calipers?

I don't do any hardcore off-roading. I mostly stay on sandy roads or mountainous fire roads. My three tire sizes options are listed below.

Stock: 285/45 R22
- Diameter: 32.1"
- Sidewall: 5"

Option #1: 33x11.5 R20
- Diameter: 33"
- Sidewall: 6.5"

Option #3: 33x11.5 R18
- Diameter: 33"
- Sidewall: 7.5"

 

[3tonsoffun]

Since being stuck at home, I have been looking at wheel options.

Looking at 20" wheels, but was wondering if I should consider the additional sidewall the 18" wheels. However, are 18" wheels ok with the CCD suspension and brake calipers?

I don't do any hardcore off-roading. I mostly stay on sandy roads or mountainous fire roads. My three tire sizes options are listed below.

Stock: 285/45 R22
- Diameter: 32.1"
- Sidewall: 5"

Option #1: 33x11.5 R20
- Diameter: 33"
- Sidewall: 6.5"

Option #3: 33x11.5 R18
- Diameter: 33"
- Sidewall: 7.5"

Pretty sure the CCD was exclusively designed for 22” wheels. May wanna stick with that option unless your going to convert to normal shocks and springs. Go to customwheeloffset.com and view their gallery of Expeditions. My opinion, 22s for pavement princesses and 18-20s for heavy to light off-roading.

 

[Randy_270]

A guy in my town has stock F-150 18s on his platinum with CCD suspension. I also went to 18s on my Limited with standard suspension. I prefer the softer ride of more sidewalk and I think they look better too.

 

[Lou Hamilton]

Pretty sure the CCD was exclusively designed for 22” wheels. May wanna stick with that option unless your going to convert to normal shocks and springs. Go to customwheeloffset.com and view their gallery of Expeditions. My opinion, 22s for pavement princesses and 18-20s for heavy to light off-roading.

I looked there and saw one Platinum with 20's but all other 2018+ were either non-CCD or had 22+" wheels.

I'm confident with 20's, just was not sure about 18's. I've seen the ones that I am interested reviewed on YouTube and they were either 16 or 18", so the 20's would look just as good and not squished or wonky with hole patterns too small.

Again, this is just window shopping now. Not looking to drop and significant cash (~$2800) until this pandemic is over and jobs are 100% secure. I'm technically not essential, but since I support Gov workers, I am ok for now.

 

[scottdm]

I'm running 20's with CCD suspension and am pleased with the improved softness in the ride. 18"s will clear the calipers with no issues (FX4 runs 18's as stock). A guy on the forum is even running 17" wheels from an F150 with snow tires and they still clear the calipers.

 

[Fozzy]

The CCD’s are not an F1 take off component. They are pretty simple. Changing wheel and tire set ups change the weight and rotating mass. I have the CCD’s, ready lift and 35x12.50x20’s and the only noticeable difference I can tell in the ride is the heavier ply tires and road noise due to the more aggressive tread. Overall suspension performance seems the same. No codes or check engine lights and all the drive modes still act the same. If I could do it again I would go 18”s. I am looking for a more off road look and you can still curb 20’s on 35’s pretty easy.


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[Lou Hamilton]

The CCD’s are not an F1 take off component. They are pretty simple. Changing wheel and tire set ups change the weight and rotating mass. I have the CCD’s, ready lift and 35x12.50x20’s and the only noticeable difference I can tell in the ride is the heavier ply tires and road noise due to the more aggressive tread. Overall suspension performance seems the same. No codes or check engine lights and all the drive modes still act the same. If I could do it again I would go 18”s. I am looking for a more off road look and you can still curb 20’s on 35’s pretty easy.


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I'm not looking at removing or modifying the CCD suspension. I am simply asking about clearance without having to do anything. You said you would do 18's if you had to do it again. Does that mean that the 18's clear the suspension and brake calipers without issue?

The wheels that I am looking at are either +10 or +12 mm offsets but I am keeping the same relative width (11.2 vs. 11.5), so they will be sticking out some but not going internally much at all.

 

[dlcorbett]

You should be able to do 18s as long they have the same measurements as the stock 18inchers from the xlts. None of the driveline or brake components change with the ccd. Check the wheel measurements on the xlt wheels and cross reference them with the wheels your interested in.

 

[byathread]

Limited trim rentals I've had come with 20" wheels and ccd. I've had three so far, one 2020 had 7 miles on it!

There is a little bit of a ride softness difference with the extra sidewall on the 20" tires. Haven't driven one with 18s yet, but, I'd imagine it'd be even softer.

Should be fine whatever route you choose! [emoji106]

 

[Fozzy]

It will be tight. I think it depends on how the wheel is constructed. I don’t see any of the CCD equipment being an issue. It’s the caliper and lower ball joint bolt. Here is a picture of my 20”s. I have roughly 1.5” of clearance from both.




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[dlcorbett]

Limited trim rentals I've had come with 20" wheels and ccd. I've had three so far, one 2020 had 7 miles on it!

There is a little bit of a ride softness difference with the extra sidewall on the 20" tires. Haven't driven one with 18s yet, but, I'd imagine it'd be even softer.

Should be fine whatever route you choose! [emoji106]

How was this? Were they ordering 302/303 pkgs then changing the wheels out? How could they order them that way? Atleast for consumers, theres no way to get the ccd with 20s for the expy. I wouldve loved to do this. They just included 20s on the nav with ccd this my.

 

[StealthyBulldog]

I have 20's on my Limited with CCD, zero issues. Can't comment too much on ride difference between the 22's and 20's since the 22's were only on for maybe a month

 

[Donn Brink]

I actually love the ride my stock 18’s provide. That’s one of the main reasons I purchased the xlt / fx4 package ! I personally think they look fantastic for a stock wheel !

 

[byathread]

How was this? Were they ordering 302/303 pkgs then changing the wheels out? How could they order them that way? Atleast for consumers, theres no way to get the ccd with 20s for the expy. I wouldve loved to do this. They just included 20s on the nav with ccd this my.

One was a 4x2 Max in NC, One was a 4x4 Std in Canada, and one was a 4x4 Max in NE, all from National. Ya know, it may very well be that the rental units didn't have CCD... I just looked at the Ford website to educate myself and I see Limited does not equal CCD - thought it did - my bad. Does tow package equal CCD? Cause I know the last 2 of them had the backup assist, but, they all had 20" wheels. I chalked it up to the rental company wanting to replace tires instead of tires and rims didn't give it another thought at the time!

 

[Dice Roll]

You have to get 302a or above package to get ccd. Stealth or SE is a way.

 

[Fozzy]

I actually love the ride my stock 18’s provide. That’s one of the main reasons I purchased the xlt / fx4 package ! I personally think they look fantastic for a stock wheel !

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I think that looks great, I would never say “that needs bigger wheels”. The big wheel look is really getting old. Or maybe it’s me that’s getting old. I had 37’s on 22’s and it was the worst ride and most unusable set up I have ever had. I don’t mind the mall, but I like to use mine stuff in the dirt.


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[1alembic]

I also have a 2019 platinum with CCD and transitioned to 20" wheels, 3/2 readylift kit and 33" tires. No issues at all. I also like a little more sidewall.

 

[Lou Hamilton]

I'm thinking that I'll be going with the 20" wheels to be safe. It will be a nice compromise between the two other sizes.

Besides not wanting to spend the money now, its hard to justify an investment in the Expy when I really can't drive anywhere except to the grocery store.

 

[byathread]

I'm thinking that I'll be going with the 20" wheels to be safe. It will be a nice compromise between the two other sizes.

Besides not wanting to spend the money now, its hard to justify an investment in the Expy when I really can't drive anywhere except to the grocery store.

Agree with this sentiment.

MD hasn't said that liquor/beer, firearms /ammunition and pharmacy are essential? You NEED those 20" rims man, essential!

 

[AKentPhoto]

I still have a set of 1st gen Raptor 17s in the garage...
When mine comes in I'm going to test fit them but I'm fairly certain they will fit. I'm going to see if I can stuff 35s at stock height with some BFH and trimming til work comes back and I can tackle getting around the CCD and add a lift.