Dual Battery set-up

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Forgot to mention Larry at dirty parts out of LA help me get my kit
nice guy got the kit up here fast, no problems, check them out

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How mich was the kit? I need to add one for the lights I have

It wasn't cheap, $350 plus the two red tops
I looked at putting together one ,painless wiring soleniod , tray and wiring etc... and it wasn't that much cheaper. The Wrangler kit is clean and simple.
 

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Canadian, I would recommend spending a little more and finding yourself a battery isolator vice using the solenoid. While the solenoid will provide the necessary isolation, I also find that it creates more hassles than it fixes.

The last dual setup I did, I think it cost us a whole $100 plus the cost of the two batteries. But then, I also fabricated up a mount from scratch and I made all of my own cables (easy to do as long as you know how to crimp on large lugs).
 
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I don't see how the soleniod will cause any hassle ???
If it stopped working I would still have power, plus I like the idea of being able to chose which battery is being charged or if I need to boost myself.
The soleniod seems heavy duty.......
 

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Canadian, my experiences with a solenoid system is that the solenoid is wired up to place the 2 batteries in parallel with each other to allow charging. But, what happens is this is done with a switch and the owner will forget to turn the switch off when they park the truck. So, when they start playing say the stereo with the truck off, they end up draining both batteries and still leaving themselves stranded. Where the battery isolator will kill the connection as soon as the alternator stops outputting. Makes for a more "idiot proof" setup. If you can remember to keep things separate, then go for it.
 

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thermo...can you post a link where you would buy if you were doing your setup...i'm wanting to do this in the spring...if not...i'll be adding a 3500 battery in the back to be ready for future upgrades for 15 screens...lights...2500 rms 18 sub...maybe 2 of them
 

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Would I need another battery if I have 6 55w off road lights? Wonder how much the batter can take
 

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Guys, let me clarify something off the bat: dual batteries do nothing for you if the engine is running. PERIOD!!!!! With the motor running, 100% of the loads should be coming off of the alternator. If they are not, then you are overloading your alternator and you have other issues that a second (or third, or fourth) battery is not going to fix. It is just delaying the inevitable. A dual battery setup is only useful if you are planning on using your truck's electronics when the motor is off. End of story. With this being said, if you are using electronics when the truck is off, all those electronics should be powered off of the second battery which is a deep cycle style of battery. Using a standard battery is only going to kill the battery after a few deep discharges.

Freeway, if I was to do a dual battery setup, I would be looking at a module like:
Powermaster Part pow904 - Battery Isolator

Please keep in mind that like anything else, the size of module you need is relative to your alternator. You can not get away with a 130 amp battery isolator if you are running a 250 amp alternator. The isolator needs to be rated for atleast (if not more) than what your alternator is.

Joey, as my first paragraph says, the battery will not help you if you have the truck running. That is all your alternator. If you are just out playing and have only say headlights, the truck and all of your lights running, you will have no issues. The lights are only adding 30 amps to the system. This is well within what the truck can handle. Now, if you are trying to run the truck at idle, all the off-road lights on, wipers running, heat going full blast, etc, then yes, you may find that your lights will start to dim some and the battery light will come on. You will notice that as you raise the RPMs of the motor, the lights will get slightly brighter. IF this is what you see, then you are maxing out the alternator that you have and you need to step up to something a bit bigger (I would recommend a 200 amp unit). If you are going to be running the lights when the truck is off, then as I said in the first paragraph, you need a second battery to power the lights and then you need to isolate the two batteries so you don't kill both batteries at the same time. If you need more specific information, let me know. I will tell you what you need, what you can get away with, and attempt to keep it within a price range.
 

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2nd that Thermo

The Stinger S2402 is on sale for $149.99

The NVX BIR500 is on sale for $69.95


For continuous high current draw everyone needs to know what their alternator rating is and factor the % usage. Obviously if you meet or exceed the % rating you will burn out the regulator and or brushes \ winding.

I have a winch on 2/0 welding cable that could draw as much as 300A+, do I want to put a sustained load on a 130A alt or the battery? (rhetorical)




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Well I will have 15 monitors...looking at 2500 rms in the back...lights everywhere...and I will put 2 ps3 or 360 in...one in the middle and one in the rear to play at shows...so I will need it...400 amp alt on truck now

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Yes I did the 2nd battery more for shows when the lights ( strobes & neons) are on and stereo and tvs going. The 1st Mod was going with a bigger quality made high out-put Alt. Mine puts out 145amps at idle.

THERMO: The set-up I'm running is the following.
Mode 1 Starts with main Battery, charges both, but isolates both when Ign off.
Mode 2 Main starts and is charged, disconnects the Aux battery completly,
Mode 3 Connects both batteries together with Ign off or on. Can be used to join the two batteries for boosting or winching.
Hopefully this setup works well, I leave mine in mode 1 of course. Like I said before I like the switching ability.
 

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Canadian, well, like I said, as long as you leave it in mode 1, you should be good. But, if you get someone else driving the truck or something like that, it can get interesting in a hurry. What you have is not wrong, I just like the "idiot proof" setups. What can I say, I have lived with a higher class idiot (called sailor) for too long. LMAO.
 
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