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[ExpeditionAndy]

Well you're in luck. Saw your post and signed up. I'm in the market so if you decide to dare to go for the 18, feel free to send me your truck's window sticker and asking price, along with a trade in quote from a Ford dealer is possible.

Wow!

Hi njja, welcome to the forum.

I'm still under 5K miles on the truck at this point. It's a loaded Limited EL. The dealer website said the trade in was between $45K and $48K I don't know what the real trade-in would. The sticker was $66K. I'm not sure that I will go down this road at this point but... I certainly will not do anything until I get the chance to drive a new Platinum Max for comparison but I'm sure that would be a couple of months at least, and at the rate I drive, I doubt the mileage will even get to 6K by then. The truck has been rustproofed and undercoated by Ziebart, for our Indiana winters, and I have the 100K mile/8 yr No CoPay Dealer extended warranty on it which can be sold with the vehicle or pulled off an put on the new vehicle.

 

[shane_th_ee]

Your last paragraph is what I’m looking for lol I did pose the same “how capable is your 4x4 Navi” that I posted here on the blue oval forum, there has been zero replies. I may be the only Navigator on the north Georgia Forrest service roads with mud covered hiking boots and a mud covered luxury suv lol

Did they change the rear differential for the 2018 Navi's? For the 2017s, if you went with the extended length Navi, you were stuck with an open rear differential. No thanks, I'll take a useful 4x4 without the fancy interior, thank you very much!

 

[dlcorbett]

Which differential were u looking for...?limited slip is optional i believe.

 

[shane_th_ee]

Which differential were u looking for...?limited slip is optional i believe.

Nothing worse than limited slip*, which was only optional on the Expedition and the short wheel base Navi. *Current model 4x4 GMs have electronic locking rear differentials as standard.

 

[gtnator]

Nothing worse than limited slip*, which was only optional on the Expedition and the short wheel base Navi. *Current model 4x4 GMs have electronic locking rear differentials as standard.

I thought the 2018s all have locking diff.

 

[shane_th_ee]

I thought the 2018s all have locking diff.

On the GMs? I just looked it up, and it appears you are correct and even the 2 wheel drive versions get the locking rear differential. I can't seem to find anything on the rear axle for the new Navigator, so who knows what's in it.

 

[dlcorbett]

The site for the expy says non-limited slip and electronic limited slip. Theres no mention of this in the lincoln site. Wouldn't limited slip better than a locking differential in most situations. Ive never heard an expy or navi being bad offroad and from my understanding ford never offered a locking diff.

 

[JExpedition07]

Limited slip is not better than locking dif but is better than just open diffs. I'm not so sure GM has locking diffs in their SUV pretty sure they don't. I've driven many of the new ones and not one had it. My F-350 has it but my expy didn't. It's only use is for low speed situations where you need two wheel locked in the rear. It automatically shuts off above 12 MPH. It's nice but unneeded if you are a good driver 4X4 should always be sufficient, even with open diffs.

 

[shane_th_ee]

I'm not so sure GM has locking diffs in their SUV pretty sure they don't.

Now you know: http://www.chevrolet.com/byo-vc/cli...Highlights&section=Mechanical&styleOne=394121

 

[5star]

Nice truck!

 

[Artie]

The tow package comes with electronic LSD on the Lincoln. Otherwise I believe it’s open diff standard. You can get a e-lock rear on the F150 FX4 and I think that may be it, I’m not 100% on this tho.

 

[njja]

Wow!

Hi njja, welcome to the forum.

I'm still under 5K miles on the truck at this point. It's a loaded Limited EL. The dealer website said the trade in was between $45K and $48K I don't know what the real trade-in would. The sticker was $66K. I'm not sure that I will go down this road at this point but... I certainly will not do anything until I get the chance to drive a new Platinum Max for comparison but I'm sure that would be a couple of months at least, and at the rate I drive, I doubt the mileage will even get to 6K by then. The truck has been rustproofed and undercoated by Ziebart, for our Indiana winters, and I have the 100K mile/8 yr No CoPay Dealer extended warranty on it which can be sold with the vehicle or pulled off an put on the new vehicle.

Ok, great. My cousin will meet you to take delivery and I will pay through PayPal. I am okay with the prize.

Lol, just kidding. Not a Craigslist scammer.

Let me know when you are down to it, maybe pm me or quote my posts or something.

I'm never active on forums I sign up for, so do expect delayed response but I'll send you my number if we are getting down to it.

Most chances are that I might have snagged something up in the next month or so to take advantage of Ford trying to sell off inventory.

Where I am, a dealer is basically giving $5k off on top of the $7,500 off rebate from Ford and some $1,750 off of incentives that we end up being eligible for. The deals are so good it's impossible to resist.

Not the ideal variant to buy, but for an example, the base XLT quote came to about $33k plus ttl.

How does one resist that? Don't get me wrong, not even attempting to be comparing to yours. Your trim seems perfect.

 

[JExpedition07]

I have the locking diff and I guarantee I'll never use it. I took my 07 expy through soft mud and didn't ever get stuck. It's unecsassry if you have basic driving skills and know how to use your 4x4 system and gearing correctly. The GM SUVs are worthless off road locking diff or not they have ground clearance of 4 inches with their stupid air dam and they have 22"wheels with no tread or rubber. What good is that locking diff on a vehicle that isn't capable of driving on a lawn without getting hung up?

 

[gtnator]

Now you know: http://www.chevrolet.com/byo-vc/cli...Highlights&section=Mechanical&styleOne=394121

Now we know about GM having locking diff, but what about the 2018 Expy?


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[ExpeditionAndy]

Now we know about GM having locking diff, but what about the 2018 Expy?


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2018 Limited Expedition:

 

[powerboatr]

yep 2018 will have electronic locking axle
i had it on my 2013 f150, used it a few times in the back woods inching up some slick iron ore rocks getting to the deer feeder.

limited slip on my expy now and it might as well be locked. i can plant two wheels of rubber easy and it will spin both rears if i plant the fun pedal.

electronic locking is great for low speeds crawl where you need max traction. it cuts off at 35 mph iirc.
combine that with superb traction control and you can drive in some nasty stuff safely.

 

[shane_th_ee]

For the expy, you get the limited slip rear differential if you check either the FX4 box or the heavy duty towing package box. It might also be available as a standalone option, but I'm not certain on that.