Honking Frustration-Help

[NevadaGeo]

I have the intelligent access key and like to keep it in my pocket at all times. This is for a 2017 Expedition Limited with 302A package. I have set the autolock feature to unlock so the doors stay unlocked when the vehicle is running. My frustration is this; when I get out of the vehicle and leave it running, close the door to get the mail or something else, it honks twice. I do not like this feature at all. Studying the OM, there is nothing in settings to turn off the honk. I know it is an alert that I am walking away with the fob in my pocket and the vehicle is running, but duh, I KNOW the vehicle is running. The honk is a PITA.
I went to the dealership yesterday (a Saturday...) to ask how to turn this feature off and no one knew the answer. So, does anyone on the forum have an answer on how to turn this off? Leaving the fob in the vehicle is not an option since it stays in my pocket at all times.

Any ideas??

Thanks guys!

 

[ExpeditionAndy]

As far as I can tell it is a safety feature and you can't turn it off. The only option is to leave the fob in the truck. I looked through my settings and didn't see any way to control it.

I know that if you had access to a programmer you could access the core software and make a change to a specific line of code, but unless you are a developer for Ford, you're not likely to get your hands on one of those. I used to work for a guy who wrote code for GM and he had a device that he could plug into any vehicle and change the software.

This probably wasn't much help.

 

[NevadaGeo]

Thanks EAndy. I have pretty much exhausted all options on this. Talking to the sales people at the dealership yesterday may have pointed me in that direction to have codes redone. The dealership is bending over backward for customer satisfaction so far and I was pretty adamant when I spoke to them about this. Seems to me it should be an optional setting. Maybe they can do this. Just seems a bit silly to leave it running, close the doors and it honks at you.

 

[ExpeditionAndy]

I agree, It's not like you can't hear the engine running. I guess they are afraid that they'll get sued if somebody jumped in a drove a way with it because it didn't have that feature.

Welcome to the forum. I just noticed that you joined today.

 

[NevadaGeo]

Yep. Been trolling for a while and decided to belly up to the bar.

I do like most of the optional settings on the Fords. I do geological field work and will get in an out quite often. So I offed the BeltMinder PITA and the power locks etc. In my wife's Toyota and my old Toyota Tacoma, you could not turn off the seat belt chime, which I moan about when I drive it. I always wear my seatbelt at highway speeds (seen too much to not...) but there are times when the belt is not necessary, especially in the back country wilds of the West.

Thanks for the welcome.

 

[ExpeditionAndy]

I've only had mine almost 4 weeks now. This my second Expedition, first new one. I really like the option groups that came with mine. I have the push button start and power folding running boards. I have the limited EL and except for the high end suspension in the Platinum It has all the bells and whistles.

 

[NevadaGeo]

Yours looks like mine except I got the Ingot Silver and not the EL. Had mine about a month too and love it. I liked the white upgraded paint, but got the silver. Nevada is the "silver state" despite the fact we produce 90% of the nations gold. Yes, the options package is great and especially with the freedom to turn each on or off. I like the fact you can customize it not like Toyota.

Once I find out how to turn the horn honk I will post it for the group.

 

[ExpeditionAndy]

When I bought mine, my only choice was a tri-coat white EL. It had everything on it that I wanted so other than the color I had no objections. The white is growing on me and I really like it now especially when the sun hits it. I changed out my halogen headlights and put in HIDs, that's the only modification that I made. I may eventually change all of the bulbs over to LED but I haven't decided.

I hope you can find out how to turn off the horn honk.

Andy

 

[powerboatr]

yep there is no way the user can shut off the honk feature.
you may be able to let your ford guy connect to oasis and toggle through the police or LEO settings and see if its an option to "silence" but i imagine its not, but wouldn't hurt to ask?

 

[NevadaGeo]

Thanks for that powerboatr. That will be my approach with this. Our Highway Patrol here in Nevada use mostly souped up Explorers, so maybe there is a chance the dealership can do the plug-in.

 

[Flexpedition]

Don't close the door all the way. Just close it so it barely latches and dome light stays on. The horn won't honk. Some 2011+ Explorer owners have found that if they hold the fob against the B-pillar as they close the drivers door, they can exit their running Explorer and not be super annoyed by the honk. To which some people *still* complain because evidently pulling the fob out of their pocket is a huge hassle. Some people...

No dealer will not be able to disable this (safety) feature for you. Same issue/same result with numerous automakers, not a Ford thing.

Police Interceptor sedan and SUV still use traditional keys and have their gear selector on the column.

 

[NevadaGeo]

After all the input I have received on this, I think closing the door to its semi-latched position is my best option. I can see where Ford would consider it a liability to change it in the programming. This is part of the "lowest common denominator" syndrome of a legal world we live in now...

Thanks Flexpedition for your input.

 

[jeff kushner]

There MAY be a way Nevada.....I belong to several different forums related to my vintage bikes and one of these guys was able to tell me the "secret code" to entering the programmer mode so I shut off the auto-lock feature of one of my older Expy's so I'll reach out to him and see if he knows a way. I agree, I HATE getting a jump every time that horn beeps at me too!

WTTC!

jeff

 

[NevadaGeo]

Thanks Jeff. Please do. Yes, the horn honks right when I am at the hood getting my mail.... I don't have enough underwear for this!!

 

[jeff kushner]

Well, my buddy replied right away but this is all he was able to point me to....evidently, there IS a way....but we just have to find out how to enter "programming mode", the same mode I had to enter to disable the "auto-lock" on my '03 EB model. I can tell you how I got into programming mode for the 03 but I'd be afraid that I might be setting you up for a disaster since the sequence's could be so drastically different from your truck that it caused more problems then it solves!

http://mikehmayer.com/stuff/xB/KARR 4040a.pdf

jeff

 

[jeff kushner]

Here's the sequence BUT I DO NOT KNOW WHAT MODELS THIS APPLIES TO!!! BE VERY CAREFUL! I'm not so sure that this would be safe to try but is does look like it might disable the alarm (horn chirps) if is does work for your model!

&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
How To Disable AutoLocks
Note: Manual transmission vehicles have this feature disabled at the factory. This procedure applies to most newer Ford vehicles, not just Ford trucks.

The enable/disable mode allows the autolock feature to be turned off and on. On manual transmission vehicles, when replacing the remote anti-theft personality (RAP) module, the autolock feature must be turned off by using the enable/disable mode.

The enable/disable mode is entered when the following series of steps is performed:

1. Confirm that the perimeter alarm is disarmed.

2. Close all doors.

3. Confirm that the ignition switch is in the OFF position.

Note: Steps 4 through 8 must be performed within 30 seconds.

4. Turn the ignition switch from OFF to RUN.

5. Press the power door lock UNLOCK button three times.

6. Turn the ignition switch from RUN to OFF.

7. Press the power door lock UNLOCK button three times.

8. Turn the ignition switch from OFF to RUN.

9. Verify that the RAP module chirps the horn. This indicates that the RAP module is now in the enable/disable mode and ready to accept program changes.

10. Press the power door lock UNLOCK button one time to command the RAP module to toggle the autolock/relock feature ON or OFF.

11. Press the power door lock LOCK button once to enter the command.

12. Verify that the vehicle horn chirps one time to signal the RAP module confirmation of the command. There should only be one chirp indicating that the autolock/relock feature has been disabled. If one chirp is heard, followed by a longer honk, the autolock/relock feature has just been enabled. Return to step 10.

13. Turn the ignition switch to the OFF position to exit the enable/disable mode.

14. Verify that the RAP module chirps the horn once to indicate that a feature has been changed.

The autolock and the appropriate alarm configuration are turned on at the factory on vehicles with automatic transmissions. Vehicles with manual transmissions have the autolock turned off at the factory. The RAP module returns to the prior setting any time battery power is interrupted.

&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

jeff

 

[jeff kushner]

Found this on another forum:

It appears that the only way to avoid the chirp is to hold the fob above the door as you're shutting it. It works on my wife's 2015 Explorer with push button start. It's still incredibly annoying though, and I'd love to find a permanent fix.

jeff

 

[jeff kushner]

Here's another:

Try this. With the truck running, get out of the truck, place your keyfob at the top of the driver's side door frame when you close door (just press it up against the upper outside door frame - above the keypad). Once you close the door, put the keyfob back in your pocket and walk away. When you walk away the truck will remain running and will not double-honk.

jeff

 

[Adieu]

Maybe turn off the vehicle?

 

[jeff kushner]

Yes, unfortunately guys, there are people who travel through life looking to become part of the "offended" and have taken legal recourse so many times that manufacturers in every industry try to stupid-proof cars, trucks, can openers, beach balls, dry cleaning overlays....my son is an attorney and you wouldn't believe the stories I hear from him. Sadly, these people quite often win large sums....for being stupid. It won't change until we stop rewarding stupid....ok, rant over<LOL>

jeff