My dad is concerned about lifting my expedition saying that it is not a suitable car for it. I'm trying to convince him that it's not that unsafe etc. But is it that big of a difference and really that much more unsafe? Also if you have something I could use to persuade him then that'd be good . Like if it would be safer or something
Lifting an expy
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Its the explorers that had the reputation of rollover issues due to tire failure. The expedition has a longer and wider wheelbase so less likely to happen. That being said anytime you raise the center of gravity regardless of vehicle the risk goes up.
I can say I got a flat on I 95 before in my stock expy and didnt have any issues of controlling the vehicle.
panda24619
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do this. for every inch you go up go inch wider on tires. problem solved.
SkyJumper
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First off, what is it that your Pops is against with lifting the Expy? Safety, cost, what? When lifting any vehicle, the same concerns are present. And depending how the lift was accomplished, the concern of safety is either increased or hardly any concern at all.
If you purchase a lift system that is designed for the application, then all geometry is maintained. But if you do a junkyard redneck lift from god knows what, then yes, the safety issue is increased immensely.
It is mostly in how you go about lifting a vehicle. Do it right, and you will be fine, half ass it, well, you get the point.
If you purchase a lift system that is designed for the application, then all geometry is maintained. But if you do a junkyard redneck lift from god knows what, then yes, the safety issue is increased immensely.
It is mostly in how you go about lifting a vehicle. Do it right, and you will be fine, half ass it, well, you get the point.
masterhacker
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Only issue with lifting a expy is they are heavy, and huge, so they don't go through narrow trails very gracefully. and any lifted vehicle if going to be more tippy than it was in factory form, does that means its unsafe-Absolutely not
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walnuts4x4
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lifting a expy bad???? hhmmmm... must not have done something right.... only made long trips, tow a boat, and daily driving... without a problem... and it is no different than my 97 f150 that I used to drive from northern NY to NJ...
dougmcp
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I don't think a reasonable lift affects the safety of the vehicle other than it changes your C of G and in extreme situations could lean more.
In the end it all depends on your budget and your expectations.
Is the lift for 4 wheeling or mainly for looks?
If you want to lift and also plan a larger wheel/tire combo plan on replacing front end parts more quickly. Along with a lift you will need to put new shocks and a wheel alignment in your plans.
In the end it all depends on your budget and your expectations.
Is the lift for 4 wheeling or mainly for looks?
If you want to lift and also plan a larger wheel/tire combo plan on replacing front end parts more quickly. Along with a lift you will need to put new shocks and a wheel alignment in your plans.
tonydiv
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Exactly which vehicle does dad think is 'appropriate' to lift?
Couldn't feel safer in mine.
Couldn't feel safer in mine.
DR3W
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My lift/tires give me a wider stance/wider tire tread and more grip & stability.
I felt like stock lift and tires for these expy's is like an elephant wearing high-heels... Just not right..
And a lift with bigger tires is like a fresh pair of nikes ready for action!
I felt like stock lift and tires for these expy's is like an elephant wearing high-heels... Just not right..
And a lift with bigger tires is like a fresh pair of nikes ready for action!
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How about if you get into a wreck you tend to drive over the vehicle, not smash into it? Just saying......
As for stability, in mine, I will admit that it tends to lean a little more than when it was stock when doing high speed turns. But then, a lifted truck is not a Ferrari. As for being any more unsafe, I could use this argument that semis should be removed from the road because of how high they sit and all the weight that is up high. it is all in how the owner drives the vehicle. The only argument that I will give your dad is that with the larger tires, the truck does need some more room to stop. But again, if the driver is driving the truck appropriately, then this isn't an issue. This is true though of anyone running a larger than stock tire size. It is just more pronounced with a lifted truck because you can put bigger tires on the vehicle.
As for stability, in mine, I will admit that it tends to lean a little more than when it was stock when doing high speed turns. But then, a lifted truck is not a Ferrari. As for being any more unsafe, I could use this argument that semis should be removed from the road because of how high they sit and all the weight that is up high. it is all in how the owner drives the vehicle. The only argument that I will give your dad is that with the larger tires, the truck does need some more room to stop. But again, if the driver is driving the truck appropriately, then this isn't an issue. This is true though of anyone running a larger than stock tire size. It is just more pronounced with a lifted truck because you can put bigger tires on the vehicle.
Lane24
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Not true...... I have had 5 inches of lift for years and have the same shocks it had when it was puny. It's never had an alignment and there is no uneven tire wear, and nothing on my front end has been replaced since it has been lifted.
You don't necessarily need larger wheels, depending on the size of tire you go with. I run 315/75's ( close to a 35 inch tire) and I run 16 x 8 wheels.
You can replace shocks and parts and get an alignment if you want, but it's not required depending on the type of lift you do.
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