MPG tricks that work?

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intelisevil

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Cost of vehicle operation has nearly NOTHING to do with MPG.... mostly vehicle price and service costs

Example: You run a $30k Prius for 200k miles, and your cost per mile of JUST paying down that Prius....will be approximately the cost per mile of putting gas into an Expedition

it's just one of the last places to squeeze a few bucks savings out


I paid $3000 for my '03 Expedition. I can buy a whole lot of gas at 14 mpg before I pay for the price of a Prius. Another plus, I made it to work every day recently when Portland was shut down from a little snow storm.

I don't think I'll drive an ecobox again in my life. A Toyota Yaris recently came across the center divider of a highway and ran into the side of my wife's '00 Explorer. It caught on the rear axle and spun into the Toyota Tercel behind my wife. No one was hurt. The two Toyotas were destroyed and had to be flatbedded away. We put a spare tire on the rear where the Yaris had torn a chunk out of the wheel and drove home. The Explorer is a total because it has no book value but it's still a running driveable vehicle!
 

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wow, even the 2017 with Ecoboost motor only gets 15 city / 20 highway. Horrible! My '99 gets 13/18. That only represents a 10-15% fuel economy improvement. The Ecoboost makes 75 more torques though. Ford should have been putting diesels in all these large trucks all along
 

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What's the weight difference between a 2017 & 1999 expys?


According to Google...the '99 4WD weight is 5,177 lb

According to Google, the '17 4WD weight is 5,789.

an add of 612 pounds

I was a bit surprised if this is accurate. I would have thought the V6 even with the turbos and other adds would have weighed less than the 5.4 V8


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I expect the IRS and subframe in the back is a good portion of that as well.

Plus lots more electronics and electric motors and sound deadening and... yeah.
 

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Our 2015 Expedition EL Limited 4WD Ecoboost was getting over 20MPG recently, the highest reading I got on the Lie-O-Meter was 23MPG after about 100 miles on cruise. All highway with little traffic and on cruise control at 70MPH. Finished the trip (last leg was getting home in town, with lights and frequent stops) at 21MPG. I was pretty astounded, coming from a 2005 Expedition EB 2WD that could barely muster a legit 18MPG in ideal conditions. Even our mid-size Acura MDX didn't get better MPG (usually around 20). Pretty impressed with this bus.
 

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wow, even the 2017 with Ecoboost motor only gets 15 city / 20 highway. Horrible! My '99 gets 13/18. That only represents a 10-15% fuel economy improvement. The Ecoboost makes 75 more torques though. Ford should have been putting diesels in all these large trucks all along
All of the manufacturers would have loved to use a diesel but the emission regs for our weight class ( I think it's under 9,000lb gross but don't hold me to that) won't allow it with current technology (or maybe it's as much cost but it works out the same). Hopefully that will change soon.
 

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It's not just that, gasoline engines are more preferred by the general public overall
 

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I think giving the diesel option might be interesting, those that have been around diesels know they come with inherent problems. One being that initial cost, wow a huge jump over the other options. Also, something they don't tell you is the operational cost. Diesels are way more expensive to operate, don't let anyone kid you any different. All their parts are more expensive and normally they use much more oil and many more filters needing changed. And they are really not a mom car to go short distances for daily driving. Diesels need heated up before being shut down. Wet cool stops don't help gas engines either, but they can take it a little better.
Diesels need worked, so for rigs pulling or hauling, a great choice. Everyday short town runs, not so much.
And with new emission regulations have killed the mileage the diesels once had over the gas counterparts. So for the initial cost jump, maintenance costs and fuel costs just don't pencil out for any fuel mileage savings.
 
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recently took a 1700 mile trip, but what ive seen so far drivin btw 60and 64 nets me low 20s (most ive seen was 23mpg) 65 gets me 20ish, avg 74 gave me 19mpg these numbers vary high and low depending on road variation like mtn highways or flat stretches, fresh tar, concrete or washboards, i dnt wry bout city drivin as its too abysmal to wry about
 

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These vehicles desperately need the new 4 cam, 5Liter Cummins
turbodiesel V8's that are offered in the new Nissan Titans to make
Expeditions the perfect vehicle. The modular engines are pretty wide,
so if there ever becomes such a thing as a Cummins Diesel V8
crate engine with computer, bet it would drop right in.
Of course, buying a new one with this option would be awesome.
Stephen
 
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I have an 03 XLT 4x4, 5.4, 3.73s, 90k miles. In order to improve mileage, I ran Royal Purple synthetic, a Gibson cat-back, and a K&N intake kit. Then I replaced the tires with Wrangler AT/S, which likely killed any gains I might have seen. I get around 13-14 on the road and less in town. The best I ever got out of it was with the stock air intake running a K&N filter, the Gibson exhaust, and synthetic oil - 15-17 on a road trip to CA. It is what it is...


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My 16
Weighs 6400 lbs, this is my normal ! Load out of stuff that comes along for ride.
17+ mpg at highway speeds of 75+
I can squeeze 18 to 20 in town.
Light on throttle helps
But I didn't buy it for mpg
I bought it for towing rating
3:73 gears , 4wd
Comfy ride that is easy for my 6' 3" 240 lb frame to enter and exit .
Plus EL. Give the two large dogs more cargo space to stretch out in. And still seat four .
If I run 87 no ethanol I get 18 to 19 at highway speeds
Run a/c cold as crap
 
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