Panoramic Moon Roof..Good idea or asking for trouble?

[rx7gslse]

I enjoy having it as well... but don't use it much right now being summer in TX and all...


One dumb question - Is there a way to double press the close button to get the shade to close completely at once? I push it once to close the rear section, wait for it to finish, then press it again to close the front. 1st world problems

 

[Wayne Decker]

No scratches or dents! We were towing our airstream and I was also concerned about its solar panels, but we were fine all around.

Ha! We also tow an Airstream. We don't have roof mounted solar panels but are thinking of adding them. My thought was that the solar panels are probably more hail resistant than the aluminum roof- and definitely cheaper to replace!

(are you on Airforums?)

 

[Lou Hamilton]

Having a black interior, I love the added light that it offers. I rarely ever open the glass, but the cover is almost never closed.


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[Deadman]

Having a black interior, I love the added light that it offers. I rarely ever open the glass, but the cover is almost never closed.


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See, I'm the opposite, I hate light shining in on the vehicle, because it reflects off the back side of my glasses and creates a glare. Just me...... I love the jet black dark interior as no light gets behind my glasses!

 

[montcopo]

I really dislike glass sunroofs. It is just one more way for thieves to break into your vehicle. I had mine broken in when parked at the Philadelphia zoo. My kids duffel bag and video game cartridges stolen. We were headed out on vacation. I was lucky they did not steal my suitcases. Probably too heavy to carry away

 

[wingrider]

I wish I could have skipped it. Mine has never been opened. Just excess weight in the wrong place.

Open it at least once in awhile. Even if its just a quick open and close. You'll thank us later...

 

[Phillip Karhoff]

I have one on my 19 Limited and can say I like it which is odd because normally I hate them. I had a 16 F250 4x4 TD that had one that leaked and ended up getting purchased back by Ford because they could not seal it. I purchased a 2017 F250 FX4 TD and made sure it didn't have one. With the very stiff suspension and the large expanse on the roof of the pickups I do not think they are a good idea. However, with the Expeditions, especially the ones with the CCV, I think they would do okay since the suspension is much softer. That said, I have 11K on mine and have not had any issues with it what-so-ever. I am sure I just cursed myself now and the damn thing will rattle, leak and get stuck to the point I will come back here and cuss myself out.

 

[AlterEgo]

https://youtu.be/A6hC8RA4pO0

This is a good start. I found that by venting and opening the sunroof, I could get to almost all of the sealing surfaces. I cleaned/greased all the way around the glass and the opposite surfaces. Each position provides access to different seals.

Lubing it solved rattling issues with my sunroof.

Hello,

Can you suggest which grease/lube you have used with good results. Considering that any sticky residue would be a magnet for dust and grime build up.

The grease mentioned in one of the TSBU as KRYTOX GPL-205 GPL205 is kind of expensive and hard to find.

Any alternatives that you - or anyone else may suggest for cleaning / lubing the rails for the panoramic roof to overcome the rattle. Although i only have the slightest of it in 2020 XLT, which becomes noticeable on uneven/bumpy surfaces.

Thanks

 

[Squark]

I used the Krytox and while it did work for a while, it collected a lot of grime on it. I switched back to using a silicone spray lubricant. I leave the sunroof closed and spray all along the seals on the roof using the straw. It seeps in around the seals and quiets things down for a couple of months. I get a lot of rattling/squeaking from the fixed glass panel too, not just the moving glass panel, so I lubricate both.

 

[Fastcar]

I hate mine, its just another thing to break and I feel its a safety issue if we get into a roll over crash. I'd much rather count on a sheet of crappy steel over my head than a sheet of glass that's gonna shatter.
I leave mine closed and the sun shade closed at all times. I've never open it once.... You can't get the premium models WITHOUT it.

Yup, they are a pia all around. So effin' hot now I wouldn't think of opening it. They are just a money maker for ford

 

[wakeboarder]

Hello,

Can you suggest which grease/lube you have used with good results. Considering that any sticky residue would be a magnet for dust and grime build up.

The grease mentioned in one of the TSBU as KRYTOX GPL-205 GPL205 is kind of expensive and hard to find.

Any alternatives that you - or anyone else may suggest for cleaning / lubing the rails for the panoramic roof to overcome the rattle. Although i only have the slightest of it in 2020 XLT, which becomes noticeable on uneven/bumpy surfaces.

Thanks

TSB 21-2292 is the official procedure. It also lists the lubricants. The picture below shows what I purchased. I think the most important part is to lube the weatherstripping. I think most track breakages are due to the increased force required to open and close when the weatherstripping is sticking.

 

[5280tunage]

Here's my .02 for this question.

Pros -
I love the looks, and definitely enjoy having it open, and the kids enjoy it too especially on long drives at night, cool to look out through it at the stars, or during thunderstorms.
Can help during resale if it's in good working order.

Cons -
This is the third vehicle I've had one in. One of the first two definitely had rattle issues, that took 3 yrs and Chrysler engineers flying from detroit to denver to finally fix. After that it was perfect for 5 more years before I sold it.
Not sure they actually help with cabin temps at all, I tend have the privacy cover closed a lot to keep the sun or cold out.
This "maintenance" procedure is kind of a joke. Again, bad materials and craftsmanship make it a pain. In 13 yrs of having moonroofs, this is the first that requires a special procedure and lubricant for the seals. Don't get me wrong, I've always had to clean and lubricate tracks, but never the seals to keep them functional and watertight. I have done the procedure a couple times myself and the dealer has done it once to fix the popping issue (which didn't fix it, they had to replace a track).
I pray every time I use it that it won't foul up, but this is also why I have an ESP.

 

[osteodoc08]

I love mine. Just keep it clean and lubed. 2018 with 102K miles here.

 

[osteodoc08]

TSB 21-2292 is the official procedure. It also lists the lubricants. The picture below shows what I purchased. I think the most important part is to lube the weatherstripping. I think most track breakages are due to the increased force required to open and close when the weatherstripping is sticking. View attachment 74508

Use this stuff right here. Cheap on Amazon

 

[AlterEgo]

Hello ,

So revisiting the topic after a while . After procrastinating for long I finally took on the task.

I did one pass with Krytox Products GPL-205 and Weather Conditioning Lube. Even though it is the recommended product as per the TSBU - the result were not long lasting and the chatter and rattle came back in 2-3 days, especially noticeable on uneven roads.

I re-did the whole procedure again, however this time I used an often recommended alternate product and the results have been good so far. Not sure whether it will stay like this after a full body wash, or does this process needs to be repeated every X no. of days/months. For now I am enjoying the rattle free silent drive and hoping it stays like that.

I tried this instead of Krytox. You can give it a shot and post results.




Some useful TSB links and video that might be for the same topic (didnt watch all of them).

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2019/MC-10169880-0001.pdf

https://www.f150gen14.com/forum/attachments/tsb-20-2093-pdf.98525/

PS links to videos from TSB2187:
https://www.fordservicecontent.com/Ford_Content/videos/tsb/V458.mp4
https://www.fordservicecontent.com/Ford_Content/videos/tsb/V459.mp4
https://www.fordservicecontent.com/Ford_Content/videos/tsb/V460.mp4
https://www.fordservicecontent.com/Ford_Content/videos/tsb/V461.mp4

links to videos from TSB2188:
https://www.fordservicecontent.com/Ford_Content/videos/tsb/V462.mp4
https://www.fordservicecontent.com/Ford_Content/videos/tsb/V463.mp4


Thanks.