Second Row seat

[old codger]

The second row seating on passenger side latches but does not seem to latch completely. The seat will not move out of position but you can tell it does not seem to be completely latched because I can feel it move up and down a small amount on the inboard latch when I put weight on that corner of the seat. Anyone have this same issue and if so how did you resolve the problem

 

[star-art]

Year? Assuming 07+ unfortunately, for the most part, the seat frame is not serviceable (i.e. few parts can be replaced individually). You might try lubricating the mechanisms (including the points where cables enter/exit their sleeves) with white lithium grease.

 

[Adieu]

Its totally serviceable

You could try taking off the cover above the lever to access mechanism and see if something detached or is obstructing it, and what can be done about it

Youd need to make it unlatch one way or another to replace or service the seat anyway.

You can transplant your seat covers onto another seat frame from salvage/craigslist/ebay if it's totally fubared, but youll still need to unlatch it first


PS also see if all the seat to floor bolts are nice and tight, maybe it just wiggled loose and the angle of the latch is messing with it

 

[old codger]

It is a 2017, but I never thought to check bolts on seat. The seat being a little loose from the bracket could do what I am experiencing. Thanks!

 

[star-art]

Its totally serviceable

Apparently, you haven't read the Factory Service Manual.

 

[Adieu]

Apparently, you haven't read the Factory Service Manual.

I frankly don't care what dealership considers serviceable vs replace only.

Ive torn these down and put em back together. There's specific issues within the mechanism that CAN be addressed.

 

[star-art]

The seat frames are an important safety item as any malfunction in the frame, attachment points, or mechanism could have potentially serious consequences. Ford recommends that a broken seat frame be replaced. It's always best to follow the recommendations of the manufacturer as presented in the FSM. You are of course free to do what you want. If you choose to vary from those instructions, however, it will be at your own risk (which includes potential property damage, personal injury, and/or liability).

 

[99WhiteC5Coupe]

It is a 2017, but I never thought to check bolts on seat. The seat being a little loose from the bracket could do what I am experiencing. Thanks!

New car warranty still in effect?

 

[ManUpOrShutUp]

The seat frames are an important safety item as any malfunction in the frame, attachment points, or mechanism could have potentially serious consequences. Ford recommends that a broken seat frame be replaced. It's always best to follow the recommendations of the manufacturer as presented in the FSM. You are of course free to do what you want. If you choose to vary from those instructions, however, it will be at your own risk (which includes potential property damage, personal injury, and/or liability).

Ford also recommends you disassemble the entire dashboard to replace the blend door actuator located behind the stereo, which dealerships bill as a 10+ hour job. Alternately, you could ignore the FSM, remove the stereo, and be done in under 1 hour. FWIW, Ford also recommends I change my transmission fluid every 150K miles. I did it at 95K and it was clearly overdue. The manuals are a guide and should not be considered a substitute for common sense.

 

[star-art]

Good point, but if you don't follow proper procedures when replacing your BDA it probably won't endanger the life of one of your passengers. When it comes to things like seats, seatbelts, airbags, etc. it's hard to argue that being "better safe than sorry" isn't a wise approach.

 

[ManUpOrShutUp]

Good point, but if you don't follow proper procedures when replacing your BDA it probably won't endanger the life of one of your passengers. When it comes to things like seats, seatbelts, airbags, etc. it's hard to argue that being "better safe than sorry" isn't a wise approach.

Well, no one suggested he fix it with duct tape. It may or may not be repairable, but no matter what we're talking about I can't see the sense in a blanket replacement approach.

A few months after my wife got her car one of my dogs (a pup then) chewed up the seat cover and got his teeth into the front passenger seatbelt as well. We replaced the seat cover as it was demolished, but left the seatbelt as we did not feel it was structurally compromised. Somehow one of the techs at Mazda noticed the seatbelt during an oil change and made a note on our invoice that the Mazda SM recommends replacement of all damaged seatbelts. Nonetheless, we left it alone and it doesn't look any different today than it did 8 years ago.

 

[star-art]

In a collision, a damaged seatbelt can sometimes break. Is it likely? Who knows, but is it worth taking a chance? I remember working on GM cars back in the day and they even warned against using chemicals to clean the seatbelt (especially bleach) as it can weaken the threads that make up the belt. This obviously would not become apparent until you are in an accident and it snaps.

 

[Adieu]

The seat frames are an important safety item as any malfunction in the frame, attachment points, or mechanism could have potentially serious consequences. Ford recommends that a broken seat frame be replaced. It's always best to follow the recommendations of the manufacturer as presented in the FSM. You are of course free to do what you want. If you choose to vary from those instructions, however, it will be at your own risk (which includes potential property damage, personal injury, and/or liability).

Frame integrity has shit-all to do with a simplistic mechanism of several bolts levers and springs that operates the folding seat and latch

 

[Adieu]

In a collision, a damaged seatbelt can sometimes break. Is it likely? Who knows, but is it worth taking a chance? I remember working on GM cars back in the day and they even warned against using chemicals to clean the seatbelt (especially bleach) as it can weaken the threads that make up the belt. This obviously would not become apparent until you are in an accident and it snaps.

Cheaping out and paying minimum wage wasteoids to mount tires, rotate wheels, or perform alignments (aka loosen and retighten bolts on major suspension components), and service brakes is.... ~10,000x more likely to kill you

Or even just buying a new vehicle assembled by morons will do the trick, too

And tons of people --- hell, MOST people --- do it, then tons of people get hurt or die in "idk wth happened" accidents.

But life goes on....and oddly, most people survive for an average of 70-some years.


Btw, remember that just because YOU'RE not getting ******* discount maintenance does not in any way shape or form protect you from the guy in the next lane and his poor choices.

Life is full of scary shit. Deal or go hide in a bunker.

PS seatbelt or seat snapping in a collision won't actually do much harm in most cases. The energy will be absorbed by the force of the "snap", much like a crumple zone

 

[ManUpOrShutUp]

In a collision, a damaged seatbelt can sometimes break. Is it likely? Who knows, but is it worth taking a chance? I remember working on GM cars back in the day and they even warned against using chemicals to clean the seatbelt (especially bleach) as it can weaken the threads that make up the belt. This obviously would not become apparent until you are in an accident and it snaps.

That seatbelt I posted a photo of is no more likely to break in a collision than a brand new one. You're grasping.