Short oil life?

[mquick5]

From my manual.

But I think I figured out the issue. this vehicle is mainly used only in town, because I use the Suburban now for towing on freeway trips. The Expedition seldom sees the freeway. Over the holiday we went and picked up the father-in-law. 140 mile trip, and oil percentage only dropped 1%. So if this was all freeway mileage on the Expedition I would get around 14,000 miles before needing an oil change!

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[mquick5]

We'll this time the truck went 3,426 miles from Jan 4th until Sept 10th. Also the dealer advised me that my rear break pads were down to 3mm and in desperate need of changing. They quoted me $500 at which I declined. I've herd Ford uses a special tool to open the calipers? Well they must of went back to a standard C-clamp at least that worked for me. I changed them myself today and I went with the Auto zone dura last gold for $59.99 + tax. The breaks were worn but I wouldn't of used the word desperate! Also whats with Ford not using a warning scrapper like most others?

 

[mquick5]

We'll this time the truck went 3,426 miles from Jan 4th until Sept 10th. Also the dealer advised me that my rear break pads were down to 3mm and in desperate need of changing. They quoted me $500 at which I declined. I've herd Ford uses a special tool to open the calipers? Well they must of went back to a standard C-clamp at least that worked for me. I changed them myself today and I went with the Auto zone dura last gold for $59.99 + tax. The breaks were worn but I wouldn't of used the word desperate! Also whats with Ford not using a warning scrapper like most others?

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[07navi]

Not all brakes have the squealer feature and I run my brakes until I hear a faint metal to metal sound which my ears are tuned in to and I have the shoes already here so no delay. Those shoes above would last me many thousands of miles more. Dealer rip off with brake jobs.

 

[rjdelp7]

Not all brakes have the squealer feature and I run my brakes until I hear a faint metal to metal sound which my ears are tuned in to and I have the shoes already here so no delay. Those shoes above would last me many thousands of miles more. Dealer rip off with brake jobs.[/QUOTe

I have ran pads down. I then had caliper pistons that drag or don't release,with the new pads. In the northeast corrosion is a problem. If the exposed part of the steel piston, gets any roughness they drag. I have replaced both front calipers twice and both rears. Ford uses phenolic pistons on some new vehicles now. They are steel hard plastic.

 

[07navi]

I have ran pads down. I then had caliper pistons that drag or don't release,with the new pads. In the northeast corrosion is a problem. If the exposed part of the steel piston, gets any roughness they drag. I have replaced both front calipers twice and both rears. Ford uses phenolic pistons on some new vehicles now. They are steel hard plastic.

Being from California and Oregon all my life I never had any of those problems.

 

[Yupster Dog]

Not all brakes have the squealer feature and I run my brakes until I hear a faint metal to metal sound which my ears are tuned in to and I have the shoes already here so no delay. Those shoes above would last me many thousands of miles more. Dealer rip off with brake jobs.

That's like hanging over a cliff with a old rope. It will hold 1 more time till it doesn't. But with the brakes you are not just putting yourself on the line but everyone around you. "You go till you hear metal on metal" that is already to late. Don't believe me see how far it takes you to stop from 45mph now and do it again when you hear your "faint metal to metal sound". My guess would be more than 4X to 5X the distance.

 

[07navi]

That's like hanging over a cliff with a old rope. It will hold 1 more time till it doesn't. But with the brakes you are not just putting yourself on the line but everyone around you. "You go till you hear metal on metal" that is already to late. Don't believe me see how far it takes you to stop from 45mph now and do it again when you hear your "faint metal to metal sound". My guess would be more than 4X to 5X the distance.

No totally wrong, I have been doing that since the sixties on my 50 plus vehicles and it has worked flawlessly with no downsides whatsoever. No longer stopping, nothing, so you are just assuming.

 

[Yupster Dog]

No totally wrong, I have been doing that since the sixties on my 50 plus vehicles and it has worked flawlessly with no downsides whatsoever. No longer stopping, nothing, so you are just assuming.

Cool story Bro, got anything non-fiction?

 

[07navi]

Cool story Bro, got anything non-fiction?

You never tried my method but you know all about it. I am guessing you aren't able to detect 1% metal to metal and you are one of those novices that freaks out about every little thing because it might be catastrophic..........lol

 

[Yupster Dog]

You never tried my method but you know all about it. I am guessing you aren't able to detect 1% metal to metal and you are one of those novices that freaks out about every little thing because it might be catastrophic..........lol

You are to funny, I asked for non-fiction but I'm guessing you don't know that is not even 1% true

I would bet that everyone on here has tried "your method" at least once with two big differences.
1 It wasn't on purpose
2 They did everything to make damn sure it never happened again.

 

[07navi]

You are to funny, I asked for non-fiction but I'm guessing you don't know that is not even 1% true

I would bet that everyone on here has tried "your method" at least once with two big differences.
1 It wasn't on purpose
2 They did everything to make damn sure it never happened again.

What? did you read my post?

 

[Trainmaster]

Back when I was a poor kid, I ran brakes until the remnants of the linings fell off them and rattled around in the drums. The rivets scored the drums and they were toast, but I just threw in a set of new shoes. Sometimes the faces of the shoes were even worn away. But the cars still stopped.

Then came disk brakes. And, yep, I wore a few of those down to the metal and they stopped too. But by then I learned how to read, and I read that having some lining left was necessary for proper heat dissipation. I learned that if pads were worn too thin they would transfer too much heat to the caliper, the piston and the fluid. That's why my Chrysler pistons always seized. That made sense, so, being in better financial shape by that them, I began following the manufacturers' instructions.

And I'm still around to tell about it.

One day I'll tell you my experiences with recapped tires.

 

[07navi]

Back when I was a poor kid, I ran brakes until the remnants of the linings fell off them and rattled around in the drums. The rivets scored the drums and they were toast, but I just threw in a set of new shoes. Sometimes the faces of the shoes were even worn away. But the cars still stopped.

Then came disk brakes. And, yep, I wore a few of those down to the metal and they stopped too. But by then I learned how to read, and I read that having some lining left was necessary for proper heat dissipation. I learned that if pads were worn too thin they would transfer too much heat to the caliper, the piston and the fluid. That's why my Chrysler pistons always seized. That made sense, so, being in better financial shape by that them, I began following the manufacturers' instructions.

And I'm still around to tell about it.

One day I'll tell you my experiences with recapped tires.

I had my share of recaps with violent blowouts, ruined fenders, etc and you can't pay me to run them now. As for the brakes: I don't tow or speed around the mountains and never had a problem with heat from thin pads. Actually the squealers let them get pretty thin. This "wait 'til I hear a sign of metal to metal" method (as I said) works quite well and always has.

 

[Trainmaster]

Had a recap blow the right front fender clear off a Grand Fury at 80 MPH, right before getting pulled over and ticketed for ... missing fender.

Now I consider recaps in the same class as refurbished mattresses.

I've made the big time.

 

[07navi]

Had a recap blow the right front fender clear off a Grand Fury at 80 MPH, right before getting pulled over and ticketed for ... missing fender.

Now I consider recaps in the same class as refurbished mattresses.

I've made the big time.

I bought 4 tires from Treadright and one blew with 70 PSI in it and the 8k pound Excursion turned into a bucking bronco plus it ruined my fender and bumper. The other 3 tires had bulges eventually so they would have blown out too. Treadright said it was a casing problem but would give me a discount on another tire............never again.

 

[mquick5]

It's a function of miles driven and days elapsed. Did you change the oil more than six months ago?

It's a function of miles driven and days elapsed. Did you change the oil more than six months ago?

Well my last oil change proves the days elapsed wrong. Went 4,547 miles before needing the oil changed, per the dash display. Which is my best so far with this truck. It has been on a few trips lately, but like I said before mainly just short trips with a lot of idle time. Anyway last oil change was 9/2/21 at 65,151 miles. The one before that was 9/10/20 at 60,604. So almost a full year!

I did my 1st oil change on this truck at 50,182 miles. Since then I've been taking it to the dealer. For a couple reason's, 1st to make sure there was no issue with the truck and the short oil life. 2nd reason was it was only a little over $50 and they rotate the tires! Which I gladly pay the $20 difference in doing it my self to have the tires rotated. Well the other day the dealership must of takin a hardship since my last visit. They charged me around $30 more for this recent oil change! Like $17 more on labor and $13 for parts. That will be the last oil change they see me for. As for rotating tires, in July I purchased a new set, that included road side service & life time rotating a balance.

 

[chuck s]

Not sure how sophisticated the Ford "intelligent oil life monitor" is other than time and miles. Some similar systems monitor engine use, rpms, and cold starts.

My truck is near duplicate to Mquick5's including "Absolute Black." The only oil use/change notification I've yet received occurs as I near the 12 month interval. Maybe 25,000 miles in the last 4+ years. Car came with remote start. Dash displays engine hours in total and idling hours.

Curiosity prompted an engine oil analysis and the oil is good for much longer. Using full synthetic I'm convinced the "or X months" is useless within reason, only the mileage counts and full synthetics can usually go much further than the specified mileage. BTW Ford highly advertised their 6,000 mile/6 month oil change circa 1961 sixty (60) years ago!

-- Chuck

 

[Plati]

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[tommyddsr]

Unless the oil viscosity is tested it is just a calculation. Best to just do proper maintenance and change on schedule. And speaking of proper maintenance, by time you hear metal to metal contact on a set of brakes it is too late and you have obviously not been keeping up with your maintenance by doing simple checks on your brakes. Takes 10 seconds and a flashlight to look at disc brakes. You can do it while you are checking your tire pressure.