Transmission Problem

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dtwilson17

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I have a 2007 Expedition EL with 65000 miles. Had transmission problems at 55000 miles 1 year ago (under 60000 extended warranty). Ford dealership replaced the torque converter. Now 13 months later, the same issue is taking place in 10000 miles. The dealership said the torque converter should not go out in 10000 miles so it must be the Megatronics Unit. New bill (on my dime) is about $3500 for new torque converter and megatronics unit. I took it to another transmission shop to see what they can do and they suggested to "flash" the megatronics unit to reset it at the Ford dealership. I called the dealership and they said that no update is available according to Ford engineers.

Can a Megatronics Unit be "flashed"?

Could it just be a bad torque converter?

On a side note, I bought this new and fully expect a $50,000 vehicle to last longer than 65000 miles when used for an occasional vacation and running kids to school and soccer (no towing).
 

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I would take it back to the dealership that did the torque converter replacement. Since they missed the diagnosjs, they should fix the transmission correctly and Ford should still pay for it.

Contact Ford customer service. They can actually help you with this one.
 

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what is it doing. because there is a reflash for the computer because of clunking or banging when stopping or starting out witch is a common problem.
 

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what is it doing. because there is a reflash for the computer because of clunking or banging when stopping or starting out witch is a common problem.

I have that problem, for some time now - Can you elaborate on that one?
Thanks…
 

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Here is the info on that TSB.





TSB 08-22-7





DRIVELINE BUMP WHILE BRAKING - BELOW 10 MPH (16 KM/H)


FORD:


2007-2008 Expedition





This article supersedes TSB 08-4-13 to update the Issue, Service Procedure and remove the production fix date.


ISSUE


<font color="Red">Some 2007-2008 Expedition vehicles may exhibit a bump feeling while braking to a stop below 10 MPH (16 Km/h). This procedure will improve the bump felt while braking to a stop.





ACTION


Follow the Service Procedure steps to correct the condition.





SERVICE PROCEDURE


CAUTION APPLYING THIS PROCEDURE TO UNITS THAT DO NOT EXHIBIT THE COASTDOWN BUMP MAY RESULT IN WORSE SHIFT QUALITY.





NOTE DO NOT ATTEMPT TO REPLACE THE MECHATRONIC UNIT. MECHATRONIC REPAIR/REPLACEMENT IS NOT AUTHORIZED FOR THIS ISSUE.





1. Install Integrated Diagnostic System/Portable Diagnostic Software (IDS/PDS) or equivalent and ID the vehicle.





2. Update the Power Control Module/Transmission Control Module (PCM/TCM) calibration using IDS release 57.8 and higher or 58.1 and higher. This new calibration is not included in the VCM 2008.9 DVD. Calibration files may also be obtained at the website. Since the TCM cannot be independently reprogrammed, reprogram the PCM to ensure that engine and transmission calibrations are updated to the latest level simultaneously.





a. Verify that the TCM shows 8L1P-7J104-AC (8L1P-7J104-BC for 2008 vehicles built after 12/3/2007) part number after reprogramming is complete.





b. Select the following from IDS, Tool Box, Powertrain, OBD Test Modes, Mode Level 9 Vehicle info, TCM Cal Part Number.





3. Clear TCM keep alive memory (KAM) and adaptive tables.





a. Using IDS:





(1) Open Toolbox.





(2) Choose Powertrain.





(3) Choose Reset KAM.





(4) Then Choose TCM.





b. Using PDS:





(1) Choose all Tests and Calibrations.





(2) Scroll down the menu and choose reset TCM KAM.





NOTE FOR PDS, RESET TCM KAM IS NOT THE SAME AS CLEAR TRANSMISSION ADAPTIVE TABLES, WHICH IS UNDER THE POWERTRAIN - TRANSMISSION MENU TREE.





NOTE UNHOOKING THE BATTERY WILL NOT CLEAR THE TCM KAM.





NOTE DO NOT CLEAR THE PCM KAM.





4. Verify that the transmission fluid temperature (TFT) PID is above 175 °F (80 °C). If it is not at 175 °F (80 °C), drive unit approximately 3 miles (5 Km) to reach temperature.





NOTE TFT MUST BE AT 175 °F (80 °C) OR ABOVE BEFORE PROCEEDING TO STEP 5.





5. Drive unit to perform adaptive shift strategy learn:





a. Accelerate from rest with light throttle to 15 MPH (24 Km/h), remove foot from accelerator pedal.





b. Brake very gently to a complete stop (allow at least six (6) seconds).





c. Repeat Steps (a-b) a total of five (5) times in the dealership parking lot or similar setting.





d. Accelerate from rest with light throttle ensuring that the 1-2, 2-3 and 3-4 shifts occur at engine speeds between 1300-1800 RPM.





e. Continue to accelerate until you achieve 50 MPH (80 Km/h) or the 5-6 upshift.





f. Brake gently to a complete stop and hold foot on brake for at least 10 seconds.





g. Repeat steps (e-f) three (3) times.





<font color="Red">NOTE THE HARSH BUMP FELT WHILE BRAKING TO A STOP WILL BE IMPROVED. HOWEVER, SEVERAL DAYS OF DRIVING ARE REQUIRED FOR THE TRANSMISSION TO FULLY ADAPT.





WARRANTY STATUS: Eligible Under Provisions Of New Vehicle Limited Warranty Coverage IMPORTANT: Warranty coverage limits/policies are not altered by a TSB. Warranty coverage limits are determined by the identified causal part.





OPERATION DESCRIPTION TIME





082207A 2007-2008 Expedition: 1.0 Hr.


Check DTCs, Reprogram


The PCM And TCM,


Includes Time To Clear


KAM And Perform Road


Test. Authorization Decal


Not Required (Do Not Use


With 12650D)






Hope it helps.
 

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2007 or 2010, if its the same symptom then it might need some transmission reflash, just passing some info that might help .
Ty.
 

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I think so - just before coming to a complete stop, there's a "bang", when the transmission switches to first…
So, you’re saying I need to reflash the ECM?
 

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So my 07 is doing this, is it hurting anything when it does that bump? It isn't all the time but it definitely does it on occasion.
 
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