v10 race engine?

[stangant]

Added new question down at the bottom (post #10)
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well I ended up not getting a expy unfortunately as gas prices have been bad but this led me to a question that some of you may be able to answer.

I want to do a project car after my current one and was thinking if I bought another new edge mustang I would throw in a v10 into it.

The question isn't how but it's were do I go to get "race" parts? I would like to fully build it to have a twin turbo setup and make some good power.

This is just a research thing and is just hypothetical currently. Ford did this with a car and was decent and I know it wasn't the engine but I would like to recreate that. Please no negative comments... thanks for any help.

what transmissions will bolt up? I am wanting to do a 6 speed trans if possible.

 

[Expyguru]

Yeah that will never happen. So for the bad news, but there is no way u will get it in a mustang plus it it doesn't make sense. You can't get the performance parts needed for the 6.8. Plus a 4.6 built right with dual turbos will make more than 1000 hp. 6.8 is good for what it comes in that's it.

 

[toms89]

Don't see how it possibly would fit but since this is hypothetical I will go along. Any tranny that will bolt up to 5.4 or 4.6 should bolt up to block fine. It is essentially a 5.4 + 2 cylinders. As was mentioned the speed parts availability is limited due to less V10's made but there are some performace products for the V10. It shares the same rods, pistons, valve train (minus cams) as the 5.4's. So you can get decent rods, pistons, etc.. You would have to do custom ground cams and headers but since this is a turbo build this would be necessary anyways. Could also port and polish the heads. It would make for an interesting, but possibly quite expensive project.

The potential is there.......but in the end it think it would make for a nose heavy mustang. Think it would be better suited for an expy or truck build. The handling vs your V6 turbo stang would be not so great.

 

[stangant]

thanks for the info guys, I may still get one if I find it for cheap just to play around with as the engine intrigs me but find a different home for it.. Although that in a mustang would be impressive to see. Any idea if the engine mounts are close to the same type? trying to find some and no such luck... But as I said this is just more for the build up of it more then the transplant.

For handling I would just do a massive coilover setup in the front. I bet you I could fit that engine in thought, length wise and then for the hight I would make a custom intake for it kinda ls1 style.

 

[toms89]

I found this. But this is an special aluminum block v10 based on the 4.6 cobra. If you can just get ford to part with it?!

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/112_0308_ford_mustang_boss_350_v_10/viewall.html

 

[toms89]

Found this also..twin turbo v10 mustang. Just not a ford motor

Had to move firewall back 6"

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/07/02/video-twin-turbo-viper-v10-engined-ford-mustang-looks-to-be-one/

 

[kentv6]

Many v10 mustangs on the WEB. 5.4l performance parts work in v10. It can be done. Have fun it will fit only 6" longer. trans. same as 4.6L.

 

[stangant]

I was thinking I would look to do this in a s197 maybe find a 05 style model with a blown engine and do some work... in my dreams but hey maybe.

 

[toms89]

I was thinking I would look to do this in a s197 maybe find a 05 style model with a blown engine and do some work... in my dreams but hey maybe.

Your statement reminds me of when I was searching on youtube for supercharged expeditions. Needless to say it came up with "blown" expys....as in motor was dead..lol.

 

[stangant]

had to bring back the old thread due to new interest. I am now leaning to do this as a high compression carb engine with 10 tb's. Any idea how to set that up and what I would go with? I am thinking of doing that engine setup and putting the cobra 6 speed trans on it. I think this method would ultimately simplify the setup.

So now that everyone thinks I'm crazy, is it possible?


Would want to end up with something simple like this non production engine.


even though it's coming from this.

 

[buildingdoc]

Still confused why you are posting on the expy forum. If I talk about expy engines in the body section it gets flagged for miscategorized. Smh

 

[toms89]

had to bring back the old thread due to new interest. I am now leaning to do this as a high compression carb engine with 10 tb's. Any idea how to set that up and what I would go with? I am thinking of doing that engine setup and putting the cobra 6 speed trans on it. I think this method would ultimately simplify the setup.

So now that everyone thinks I'm crazy, is it possible?


Would want to end up with something simple like this non production engine.


even though it's coming from this.

Thats a bit of a contradiction.

Throttle bodys = fuel injection= simple throttle plate to meter airflow.

If you want individual runners for each intake and a carb setup you would need 10 complete single barrel carburetors.

It would be much easier to have a common manifold with twin 4 barrels or maybe 5 two barrel carbs if you desire. Have to remember with carbs each throttle plate/ barrel has its own venturi and set of fuel metering valves/ passages.

It would be interesting but balancing the individual carbs to each other would be difficult. With fuel injection you would have to worry about metering idle air bypass to each cylinder equally. It gets complicated when you keep the runners isolated to individual throttle plates.

 

[stangant]

Yea maybe your idea of 5 doubles will work. I do mean a carb setup.