What oil and Filter combo in the new Ecoboost

[NASCAR Mike]

I use the Motorcraft FL-500 because it has an anti-drainback valve. This helps with oil pressure when you first start the engine.

I currently use Valvoline Advanced Synthetic 5W30 but I will be switching to the new Valvoline Modern Engine synthetic made for DI engines. They claim 30% less oil vapor that gets into the intake and ultimately on the intake valves.

I think combined with my JLT oil separator I have great reduced the risk of fouling the intake valves.

 

[txracer16]

The forums at www.bobistheoilguy.com are a good resource for info on motor oils. Castrol Magnetec has been suggested as suitable for use with the Ecoboost. Without getting too deep into the technical details, direct injection engines suffer from excessive fuel dilution (confirmed in multiple UOAs), so many posters suggest using a heavier 30 to accommodate a decrease in viscosity over time.

That site is a great resource. Also has very interesting info and study on oil filter construction and performance between brands.

 

[Jigstick]

Schaeffers Supreme 9000 Full Synthetic has by far been the best oil I've used in our cars. My wifes 2012 Explorer, two chevy tahoes, an F150, a Ram 1500. And now in our 2018 Expy. Nothing else even comes close.

Ive used the Royal Purple and K & N filters, experimenting between the two. My experience has shown that its so close I can't tell which one performs the best between the two. Now I just go with the KN because the wrench off nut makes it so nice.

 

[JExpedition07]

I use the Motorcraft FL-500 because it has an anti-drainback valve. This helps with oil pressure when you first start the engine.

I currently use Valvoline Advanced Synthetic 5W30 but I will be switching to the new Valvoline Modern Engine synthetic made for DI engines. They claim 30% less oil vapor that gets into the intake and ultimately on the intake valves.

I think combined with my JLT oil separator I have great reduced the risk of fouling the intake valves.

I use Motorcraft filters as well, good quality for low $.

Have to watch the quicklube places. I’ve read they only stock FL-500S filters to reduce inventory. Ford says the FL-500S is not large enough to be accepteble for the 5.4 Triton. But these places slap them on everything anyway because they fit. Always use and make sure the recommended filter was used.

 

[TobyU]

Schaeffers Supreme 9000 Full Synthetic has by far been the best oil I've used in our cars. My wifes 2012 Explorer, two chevy tahoes, an F150, a Ram 1500. And now in our 2018 Expy. Nothing else even comes close.

Ive used the Royal Purple and K & N filters, experimenting between the two. My experience has shown that its so close I can't tell which one performs the best between the two. Now I just go with the KN because the wrench off nut makes it so nice.

Schaeffer's does make some great products. Found any deals on it?

 

[lobsenza]

I like Liqui Moly. Anyone else tried it?

 

[mike foster]

I like Liqui Moly. Anyone else tried it?

I just bought my '17 has 75K on it and when I saw on the little window sticker reminder the Ford dealer used bulk 5w20 ...so I used a can of Liqui Moly MoS2 additive until I change the oil next month. It's staying cool here and I'm not towing so won't be anything to lose sleep over. I bought Penzoil Platinum 5W30 (Wix filter) and will use it but on I'm thinking about using the Liqui Moly Molygen 5w30 w/ the Wix.

 

[mike foster]

Recently installed my JLT oil separator and now I know why they call them "catch cans" -you should see the milky oily goop it picks up. I poured a good tablespoon out after only a few hundred miles. In my opinion this is a MUST HAVE on these engines to keep that goop from fouling the MAP sensors and spark plugs.

 

[Andy C]

Oil filter has been Napa gold oil filter.
For the oil, I started to use Costco full synthetic oil.

Performing well and great price to go with it. Make it more affordable to change oil every 5k or so rather than going by the computer.


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[FormerGermanFan]

I decided I'd change my oil every 5K instead of the 7.5K to 10K. I still use full synthetic (Costco sells Mobile1 5w30 in a 6 quart pack for $23 on sale), plus a $4 motor-craft oil filter and I'm golden.

When I owned German cars I used Motul and Liqui Moly religiously, they are phenomenal oils. But they are required for the specs fussy German engines have, I feel it'd be a waste of money on an Ecoboost.

 

[Calidad]

My first change is coming up. Just be careful with the lock tab on the plastic drain plug. Don’t snap it off.

I plan on running Costco synthetic blend which is a Warren rebranded oil. Same stuff as Amazon brand it’s decent oil for general use.

Mobil 1 went junk status in around 2004 when it dropped the Euro Standard oil quality in the US Market. My 06 Mercedes from factory in Germany has Mobil 1 only stickers all over under the hood. It hasn’t had Mobil 1 in it since arriving in the US. The best oils I’ve come across and used by a drag engine builder buddy are all oil company oils. None are secondary stock oils purchased and blended by non oil company names. Cheveron oils are some of the best.
I’ll give this Warren blend Kirkland stuff a spin see how it holds up.

I quit Mobil 1 when three of my cars that never saw more than .5 qt or less usage all saw a huge jump in useage with the reblended Mobil 1 junk. My Toyota 4.7 went through 4 quarts if Mobil 1 in 6000 miles!! Switched to Chevron and went back to zero. Same for my wifes VW.
Skip Mobil 1 its junk oil in the US market. The Merc dealers can’t get the Euro spec stuff consistently so most have switched to other oils with high performance Euro specs.

 

[stefan gimenez]

Pennzoil platinum with Napa gold on 18 navigator. I’ve been using pennzoil for sometime now and like the oil. Navi has basically same engine, however equal to raptor engine. Planning on doing oil change every 5k or so as oil is cheap enough. There is rebate now to get $10back for 5qts jugs.

Also installed the fumoto drain plug for easier oil change each time. Makes it much cleaner and faster oil change.


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What is the part number of the fumoto plug you use and is your truck a new body style?

 

[TobyU]

My first change is coming up. Just be careful with the lock tab on the plastic drain plug. Don’t snap it off.

I plan on running Costco synthetic blend which is a Warren rebranded oil. Same stuff as Amazon brand it’s decent oil for general use.

Mobil 1 went junk status in around 2004 when it dropped the Euro Standard oil quality in the US Market. My 06 Mercedes from factory in Germany has Mobil 1 only stickers all over under the hood. It hasn’t had Mobil 1 in it since arriving in the US. The best oils I’ve come across and used by a drag engine builder buddy are all oil company oils. None are secondary stock oils purchased and blended by non oil company names. Cheveron oils are some of the best.
I’ll give this Warren blend Kirkland stuff a spin see how it holds up.

I quit Mobil 1 when three of my cars that never saw more than .5 qt or less usage all saw a huge jump in useage with the reblended Mobil 1 junk. My Toyota 4.7 went through 4 quarts if Mobil 1 in 6000 miles!! Switched to Chevron and went back to zero. Same for my wifes VW.
Skip Mobil 1 its junk oil in the US market. The Merc dealers can’t get the Euro spec stuff consistently so most have switched to other oils with high performance Euro specs.

I too noticed quite a bit of consumption on a fairly high mile Expedition 5.4 first gen that previously use no oil and was very clean inside.
This was probably around 2012 or 2013. But I was probably late to the game getting ahold of the new formulation mobil 1 as I really hadn't been using full synthetic in many things.
The thing didn't start leaking but the oil went somewhere.

Four or five years years ago the best used oil analysis was coming from the Pennzoil Platinum. Right before they went to the Natural Gas. Does anyone know how those are rankings now?

Just can't bring myself to pay the price for ansl even though their higher-end is some awesome good quality oil. I even upset that Walmart keeps cranking their price up on the oil. I don't want to pay $26 for 5 quarts of oil. I'm cheap. Maybe I'm going to have to start looking for some of these good online deals for the six packs or Costco on sale.

At Walmart, you basically have a selection of full synthetic and high-mileage synthetic from Pennzoil, Castro, Valvoline, mobil 1, and Quaker State. All from 23 to $28 for 5 quarts.

 

[Andy C]

What is the part number of the fumoto plug you use and is your truck a new body style?

Fumoto F107SX

2nd gen ecoboost. Used in 2018+ expedition and navigator.


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[Deadman]

Just so you all know, some of the dealers, and oil change places aren't all honest!

My buddy was a Mechanic at a Ford Dealership and he said the other mechanic that did all the oil changes would drain part of the oil out and then refill the car to full capacity and then he would throw all the extra oil in his truck and take it home for his personal use. I absolutely don't trust anyone anymore. Its sad, but its the world we live in.......

 

[Fozzy]

Just so you all know, some of the dealers, and oil change places aren't all honest!

My buddy was a Mechanic at a Ford Dealership and he said the other mechanic that did all the oil changes would drain part of the oil out and then refill the car to full capacity and then he would throw all the extra oil in his truck and take it home for his personal use. I absolutely don't trust anyone anymore. Its sad, but its the world we live in.......

So true, boat dealers are even worse. I always mark my filters so I at least know they changed it.


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