But... If they have already passed through something else and are tumbling they can make a hole like that.Bullets typically leave clean round holes on the surface of soft plastic, paperboard, and animal tissue.
-- Chuck
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But... If they have already passed through something else and are tumbling they can make a hole like that.Bullets typically leave clean round holes on the surface of soft plastic, paperboard, and animal tissue.
-- Chuck
There’s more science to this I think. In Michigan we have big 55 gallon plastic drums filled with water set up like bowling pins in front of some of our bridge abutments on the interstate. The concept works for dispersing energy. They are called impact attenuator barrels. Sometimes they fill them with sand. But the tiny amount of water inside a metal tube bumper can’t be that effective I would think?
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Wow. This has sparked quite a conversation and provided me with some great information I did not have previously.
The reason I was contemplating this is because a part of my grille is damaged. Neither my wife or I hit anything and we always park in a spot that will minimize damage. The only thing I can think that happened is that one of the neighborhood kids ran into it. If i had the push bar, he would not have damaged the car (FYI - the replacement part, which is just trim, is ~$150). Yes, this is cheaper than the Westin push bar I was thinking of (link in my original post), but I also like the way they look. However, after reading some of the posts, I will have to give it more thought.
Thanks for everyone's input.
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Would police fleets use them if they were a liability to the drivers? Not on your life.
Ford addresses the issue in their retrofit manual for the Expedition. They mention only that the vehicle may respond differently in accidents. That's very subjective.
To correct one point posted here - Fleet and SSV vehicles have exactly the same airbag and roll sensors in the same places as the rest of Expeditions. The airbag sensors are not affected by a push bar and still react if the occupants are endangered. Unless, of course you drill a hole through the thing or move it.
And yea, a push bar can crumple a hood that would otherwise be missed in a crash. That's a great point.
Many push bars, bull bars grill guards are Chinese junk and just made to look cool. I'd suspect if you want to get any real protection out of a product, look to the American made stuff the police agencies use: Generally Setime, Go Rhino (Mexican), Pro-Gard and Westin.
There’s more science to this I think. In Michigan we have big 55 gallon plastic drums filled with water set up like bowling pins in front of some of our bridge abutments on the interstate. The concept works for dispersing energy. They are called impact attenuator barrels. Sometimes they fill them with sand. But the tiny amount of water inside a metal tube bumper can’t be that effective I would think?
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Generally speaking the push bars on police vehicles are mounted more substantially. A lot of the aftermarket ones just bolt onto the two hooks or replace the tow hooks.
The often replace the whole bumper and or have extra reinforcement. Even when not visible. I was rear ended by a California CHO Camaro that slid under the back bumper of my Chevy Venture. The only damage was scratched paint. It didn’t have a push bar so I commented on it. It was mandatory we stay at the scene for a police report since CHP was involved. I marveled at the lack of damage. He opened the hood and showed me where there was extra support behind the bumper area.How are the police ones mounted???